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	<title>Comments on: NYT Thinks TeaBugger James O&#8217;Keefe Entitled to Own Set of Facts</title>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he&#039;s pro-torture and he won Ted&#039;s Senate seat in a protest vote.  How the two are connected remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he&#8217;s pro-torture and he won Ted&#8217;s Senate seat in a protest vote.  How the two are connected remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/02/09/nyt-thinks-teabugger-james-okeefe-entitled-to-own-set-of-facts/#comment-219555</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astounding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astounding.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/02/09/nyt-thinks-teabugger-james-okeefe-entitled-to-own-set-of-facts/#comment-219550</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I intend to go back and add Cheney. But I think they&#039;re missing the crucial middle step: Scott Brown. Who very literally campaigned on a pro-waterboarding platform. In MA. And won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I intend to go back and add Cheney. But I think they&#8217;re missing the crucial middle step: Scott Brown. Who very literally campaigned on a pro-waterboarding platform. In MA. And won.</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
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		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/tell-google-not-enter-agreement-nsa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ACLU letter in  protest  of the Google-NSA &quot;partnership&quot; is here&lt;/a&gt;.  Please consider signing it, and be alerting others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/tell-google-not-enter-agreement-nsa" rel="nofollow">ACLU letter in  protest  of the Google-NSA &#8220;partnership&#8221; is here</a>.  Please consider signing it, and be alerting others.</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT - From EFF:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/02/09&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Appeals Court Backs EFF Push for Telecom Lobbying Documents Disclosure
Panel Rules Law Does Not Protect Identities of Lobbyists&lt;/a&gt;

Today a federal appeals court rejected a government claim of &quot;lobbyist privacy&quot; to hide the identities of individuals who pressured Congress to grant immunity to telecommunications companies that participated in the government&#039;s warrantless electronic surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans. As the court observed, &quot;There is a clear public interest in public knowledge of the methods through which well-connected corporate lobbyists wield their influence...&quot;

...The appeals court sent part of the case back down to the district court for further consideration, including whether disclosure of the lobbyists&#039; identities would reveal intelligence sources and methods and whether communications between the agencies and the White House can be withheld under the presidential communications privilege or other grounds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The opinion (25 page PDF) is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/foia_C0705278/opinion2909.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT &#8211; From EFF:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/02/09" rel="nofollow">Appeals Court Backs EFF Push for Telecom Lobbying Documents Disclosure<br />
Panel Rules Law Does Not Protect Identities of Lobbyists</a></p>
<p>Today a federal appeals court rejected a government claim of &#8220;lobbyist privacy&#8221; to hide the identities of individuals who pressured Congress to grant immunity to telecommunications companies that participated in the government&#8217;s warrantless electronic surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans. As the court observed, &#8220;There is a clear public interest in public knowledge of the methods through which well-connected corporate lobbyists wield their influence&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;The appeals court sent part of the case back down to the district court for further consideration, including whether disclosure of the lobbyists&#8217; identities would reveal intelligence sources and methods and whether communications between the agencies and the White House can be withheld under the presidential communications privilege or other grounds.</p></blockquote>
<p>The opinion (25 page PDF) is <a href="http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/foia_C0705278/opinion2909.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He does mention what has been mentioned here before - a big difference in campaigning v. governing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He does mention what has been mentioned here before &#8211; a big difference in campaigning v. governing.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/cheney_ridge_pioneered_miranda_attack_on_obama.php?ref=fpb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Josh Marshall&lt;/a&gt; goes with EW&#039;s timeline idea, but adds this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Politico goes up early in the morning with an exclusive statement from Dick Cheney:

&quot;As I&#039;ve watched the events of the last few days it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war. .... He seems to think if he gives terrorists the rights of Americans, lets them lawyer up and reads them their Miranda rights, we won&#039;t be at war. &quot;

The media goes wild; Cheney&#039;s comments are picked up far and wide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Imagine Politico spreading Cheneyhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/cheney_ridge_pioneered_miranda_attack_on_obama.php?ref=fpb" rel="nofollow">Josh Marshall</a> goes with EW&#8217;s timeline idea, but adds this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Politico goes up early in the morning with an exclusive statement from Dick Cheney:</p>
<p>&#8220;As I&#8217;ve watched the events of the last few days it is clear once again that President Obama is trying to pretend we are not at war. &#8230;. He seems to think if he gives terrorists the rights of Americans, lets them lawyer up and reads them their Miranda rights, we won&#8217;t be at war. &#8221;</p>
<p>The media goes wild; Cheney&#8217;s comments are picked up far and wide.</p></blockquote>
<p>Imagine Politico spreading Cheneyhoods.</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think even the Canadian health care system can do much about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think even the Canadian health care system can do much about that.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does he mention that Shrub had a lot of his supporters and buddies around him, also?
(I think many candidates use jobs as rewards for their more important pre-election/campaign people. Not that there&#039;s anything unusual or illegal about it, but you always hope that those rewarded with jobs will be good at the jobs they get.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does he mention that Shrub had a lot of his supporters and buddies around him, also?<br />
(I think many candidates use jobs as rewards for their more important pre-election/campaign people. Not that there&#8217;s anything unusual or illegal about it, but you always hope that those rewarded with jobs will be good at the jobs they get.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT - Doug Wilder goes to town on not just the WH insiders, but Kaine too.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32741.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama’s West Wing is filled with people who are in their jobs because of their Chicago connections or because they signed on with Obama early during his presidential campaign. 

One problem is that they do not have sufficient experience at governing at the executive branch level. The deeper problem is that they are not listening to the people. 

...
Some are even questioning whether Obama has forgotten how he got elected and the promises he made to the people who elected him. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting read - I&#039;m not sold on all of it, but a lot of points made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT &#8211; Doug Wilder goes to town on not just the WH insiders, but Kaine too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32741.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32741.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Obama’s West Wing is filled with people who are in their jobs because of their Chicago connections or because they signed on with Obama early during his presidential campaign. </p>
<p>One problem is that they do not have sufficient experience at governing at the executive branch level. The deeper problem is that they are not listening to the people. </p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Some are even questioning whether Obama has forgotten how he got elected and the promises he made to the people who elected him. </p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting read &#8211; I&#8217;m not sold on all of it, but a lot of points made.</p>
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