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		<title>By: HanTran</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204745</link>
		<dc:creator>HanTran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really think they didn&#039;t make a video tape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really think they didn&#8217;t make a video tape?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kaye</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204736</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess this is something you don&#039;t want to hear:

&quot;Congratulations. We are promoting you. Today you become No. 3 man at Al Qaeda.&quot;

&quot;No, no,&quot; I can imagine someone saying. &quot;I am not worthy. Take Ahmed here. He is much more deserving of No. 3 than me.&quot;

Forgive the black humor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess this is something you don&#8217;t want to hear:</p>
<p>&#8220;Congratulations. We are promoting you. Today you become No. 3 man at Al Qaeda.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No, no,&#8221; I can imagine someone saying. &#8220;I am not worthy. Take Ahmed here. He is much more deserving of No. 3 than me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Forgive the black humor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204716</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, one of the sources I heard on the news today identified the probable &quot;top&quot; Al Qaeda leader as #3, who&#039;s sort of the CEO(?) of Al Qaeda, i.e., the one in charge of daily operations. Apparently, they&#039;ve been able to snag at least half a dozen of the #3&#039;s in the past 5 years or so. It sounds like the #3&#039;s are the highest ranking officers who *must*, as part of their job, operate somewhat more openly in order to be effective.

Bob in AZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, one of the sources I heard on the news today identified the probable &#8220;top&#8221; Al Qaeda leader as #3, who&#8217;s sort of the CEO(?) of Al Qaeda, i.e., the one in charge of daily operations. Apparently, they&#8217;ve been able to snag at least half a dozen of the #3&#8242;s in the past 5 years or so. It sounds like the #3&#8242;s are the highest ranking officers who *must*, as part of their job, operate somewhat more openly in order to be effective.</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204707</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooner or later I&#039;m betting there will be a &lt;i&gt;&quot;tragic&quot;&lt;/i&gt; mistake in using Predator/Reaper/Sentinel UAVs to kill people.

The &lt;i&gt;&quot;wrong&quot;&lt;/i&gt; people will get killed. I&#039;m not saying that this hasn&#039;t already occurred, but that they&#039;ve not yet killed the &lt;i&gt;&quot;right&quot;&lt;/i&gt; wrong people that would generate your typical 2-day outrage on CNN et al.

I would love to believe it would generate more than outrage. Stuff like real introspection and evaluation of the ethics, morality and legality of targeted, state-sanctioned, state-implemented, robotic killings.

But you know as well as I do that it&#039;s more likely to be viewed/voiced as &lt;i&gt;&quot;horses out of the barn, so why bother shutting the door&quot;&lt;/i&gt; by our &lt;i&gt;esteemed&lt;/i&gt; punditry and national &lt;i&gt;&quot;leaders&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.

And so it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooner or later I&#8217;m betting there will be a <i>&#8220;tragic&#8221;</i> mistake in using Predator/Reaper/Sentinel UAVs to kill people.</p>
<p>The <i>&#8220;wrong&#8221;</i> people will get killed. I&#8217;m not saying that this hasn&#8217;t already occurred, but that they&#8217;ve not yet killed the <i>&#8220;right&#8221;</i> wrong people that would generate your typical 2-day outrage on CNN et al.</p>
<p>I would love to believe it would generate more than outrage. Stuff like real introspection and evaluation of the ethics, morality and legality of targeted, state-sanctioned, state-implemented, robotic killings.</p>
<p>But you know as well as I do that it&#8217;s more likely to be viewed/voiced as <i>&#8220;horses out of the barn, so why bother shutting the door&#8221;</i> by our <i>esteemed</i> punditry and national <i>&#8220;leaders&#8221;</i>.</p>
<p>And so it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204704</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubcd4win.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;UBCD4Win program&lt;/a&gt; process of creating the UBCD4WinBuilder.iso constructed an image that took about 760 MB, but I didn&#039;t know what size it would be beforehand, so I took the safe route and used a blank DVD.

One of the great features of this really great free product is the fact that you can add additional &quot;plugins&quot; such as your own selection of utilities or anti-virus programs, etc.

Secondly, in building my image, I decided to take advantage of one of UBCD4Win&#039;s build features to update some of the standard anti-virus packages with their latest in virus definitions &lt;i&gt;prior&lt;/i&gt; to creating the image.

The reason I did this was to avoid having to do the virus definition updates after I had booted the target system from the DVD. I thought it would save time, and potentially avoid &quot;installation&quot; problems.

Using a technology that is based on WinPE, one assumes that &quot;installation&quot; of other programs while running under WinPE might be problematic (i.e. the booting CD-DVD is &quot;read-only&quot;, &quot;permissions&quot; are not available to have &quot;write access&quot; to the target system&#039;s hard drive(s), etc.).

Again, I didn&#039;t know how big the virus definition updates were going to be, so I played safe by burning it to a DVD.

But, I do want to assure you Bob that, yes, you can indeed use a CD for this programs. Burning to a DVD was the safer route for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, the <a href="http://www.ubcd4win.com/" rel="nofollow">UBCD4Win program</a> process of creating the UBCD4WinBuilder.iso constructed an image that took about 760 MB, but I didn&#8217;t know what size it would be beforehand, so I took the safe route and used a blank DVD.</p>
<p>One of the great features of this really great free product is the fact that you can add additional &#8220;plugins&#8221; such as your own selection of utilities or anti-virus programs, etc.</p>
<p>Secondly, in building my image, I decided to take advantage of one of UBCD4Win&#8217;s build features to update some of the standard anti-virus packages with their latest in virus definitions <i>prior</i> to creating the image.</p>
<p>The reason I did this was to avoid having to do the virus definition updates after I had booted the target system from the DVD. I thought it would save time, and potentially avoid &#8220;installation&#8221; problems.</p>
<p>Using a technology that is based on WinPE, one assumes that &#8220;installation&#8221; of other programs while running under WinPE might be problematic (i.e. the booting CD-DVD is &#8220;read-only&#8221;, &#8220;permissions&#8221; are not available to have &#8220;write access&#8221; to the target system&#8217;s hard drive(s), etc.).</p>
<p>Again, I didn&#8217;t know how big the virus definition updates were going to be, so I played safe by burning it to a DVD.</p>
<p>But, I do want to assure you Bob that, yes, you can indeed use a CD for this programs. Burning to a DVD was the safer route for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kaye</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204700</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Top Al Qaeda&quot; leaders are like No. 2 in the old Prisoner TV show. There&#039;s always another one waiting in the wings.

The timing was nice... the day of Obama&#039;s Nobel speech. Here is a gift of one of your &quot;vicious adversaries&quot;, oh noble leader, one we shot down by remote control missile, because we are so humane. We are so humane we offer this blood sacrifice to you on the day of your greatest triumph, for we are for peace.

What a monumental speech, to receive the prize for &quot;peace,&quot; and tell the world:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I understand why war is not popular, but I also know this: The belief that peace is desirable is rarely enough to achieve it. Peace requires responsibility. Peace entails sacrifice. That’s why NATO continues to be indispensable....&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Top Al Qaeda&#8221; leaders are like No. 2 in the old Prisoner TV show. There&#8217;s always another one waiting in the wings.</p>
<p>The timing was nice&#8230; the day of Obama&#8217;s Nobel speech. Here is a gift of one of your &#8220;vicious adversaries&#8221;, oh noble leader, one we shot down by remote control missile, because we are so humane. We are so humane we offer this blood sacrifice to you on the day of your greatest triumph, for we are for peace.</p>
<p>What a monumental speech, to receive the prize for &#8220;peace,&#8221; and tell the world:</p>
<blockquote><p>I understand why war is not popular, but I also know this: The belief that peace is desirable is rarely enough to achieve it. Peace requires responsibility. Peace entails sacrifice. That’s why NATO continues to be indispensable&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204693</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why a DVD? A CD would not suffice? Please explain. Or if it is too OT, please send expl. to me at bobschacht AT infomagic DOT net. Thnx.

Bob in AZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why a DVD? A CD would not suffice? Please explain. Or if it is too OT, please send expl. to me at bobschacht AT infomagic DOT net. Thnx.</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204684</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a letdown at all.  I liked the persistence and &quot;dammit, I ain&#039;t quitting&quot; aspects.  Too bad they don&#039;t have malware programs  that give you vid game sound effects as the nuke the virii.  

Looks like you found all the drone stuff.  I&#039;m sure that supply thing can&#039;t turn out anything but great.  After all, when it&#039;s something really lethal like bombs we do so well - and it&#039;s not like young girls have been killed in leaflet drops, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a letdown at all.  I liked the persistence and &#8220;dammit, I ain&#8217;t quitting&#8221; aspects.  Too bad they don&#8217;t have malware programs  that give you vid game sound effects as the nuke the virii.  </p>
<p>Looks like you found all the drone stuff.  I&#8217;m sure that supply thing can&#8217;t turn out anything but great.  After all, when it&#8217;s something really lethal like bombs we do so well &#8211; and it&#8217;s not like young girls have been killed in leaflet drops, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204678</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another new drone story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6952536.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US to use missile-firing drones to supply troops in Afghanistan&lt;/a&gt;

The US military plans to use drones to resupply troops fighting in Afghanistan, it emerged today. 

Faced with the task of delivering vast amounts of hardware by land and air to accompany the troop surge into Afghanistan in the coming months, the military has acquired several drones to test whether they can drop supplies into inaccessible war zones...

...While the US military says that it is not yet clear if the drones will prove to be an effective means of supplying troops, the intention is to see if they can support or even replace military helicopters, which struggle in the high altitude of Afghanistan’s mountains. 

The drones also have another advantage over helicopters. Because they fly at far higher altitudes they are out of range of militants’ anti-aircraft fire...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would still be leery of drones flying overhead. What are they gonna be dropping on me? Bombs or MREs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another new drone story:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6952536.ece" rel="nofollow">US to use missile-firing drones to supply troops in Afghanistan</a></p>
<p>The US military plans to use drones to resupply troops fighting in Afghanistan, it emerged today. </p>
<p>Faced with the task of delivering vast amounts of hardware by land and air to accompany the troop surge into Afghanistan in the coming months, the military has acquired several drones to test whether they can drop supplies into inaccessible war zones&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;While the US military says that it is not yet clear if the drones will prove to be an effective means of supplying troops, the intention is to see if they can support or even replace military helicopters, which struggle in the high altitude of Afghanistan’s mountains. </p>
<p>The drones also have another advantage over helicopters. Because they fly at far higher altitudes they are out of range of militants’ anti-aircraft fire&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I would still be leery of drones flying overhead. What are they gonna be dropping on me? Bombs or MREs?</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/10/dod-held-in-contempt-for-hiding-gitmo-testimony/#comment-204674</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did some googling and found it:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091208/pl_afp/usaviationmilitarydrones_20091208212912&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Air Force confirms &#039;Beast of Kandahar&#039; drone&lt;/a&gt;

And:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.brickhousesecurity.com/2009/12/10/beast-of-kandahar/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Air Force Finally Acknowledges ‘Beast of Kandahar’ Stealth Drone Plane&lt;/a&gt;

“Why does the U.S. need to have a super secret stealth UAV in Afghanistan?” he asked. “The Taliban and Al Qaeda don’t have radar seeking missiles we know of, so Predators and Global Hawks should work fine. This may mean then that Afghanistan is being used as a base of operations to fly covert surveillance missions over Iran, who do have radar based ground-to-air missiles.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Iran? Possibly, but I still think Pakistan airspace is its playpen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did some googling and found it:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091208/pl_afp/usaviationmilitarydrones_20091208212912" rel="nofollow">US Air Force confirms &#8216;Beast of Kandahar&#8217; drone</a></p>
<p>And:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://blog.brickhousesecurity.com/2009/12/10/beast-of-kandahar/" rel="nofollow">Air Force Finally Acknowledges ‘Beast of Kandahar’ Stealth Drone Plane</a></p>
<p>“Why does the U.S. need to have a super secret stealth UAV in Afghanistan?” he asked. “The Taliban and Al Qaeda don’t have radar seeking missiles we know of, so Predators and Global Hawks should work fine. This may mean then that Afghanistan is being used as a base of operations to fly covert surveillance missions over Iran, who do have radar based ground-to-air missiles.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Iran? Possibly, but I still think Pakistan airspace is its playpen.</p>
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