Comments on: The Bazaar for Deals at Gitmo http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-199002 Leen Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:56:54 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-199002 "how prosecutors at Gitmo are scrambling to make deals with detainees at Gitmo" Has potential for a new game or reality show Let's make a Deal Door 1 Door 2 Door 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT5nfSk4u2A “how prosecutors at Gitmo are scrambling to make deals with detainees at Gitmo”

Has potential for a new game or reality show

Let’s make a Deal

Door 1
Door 2
Door 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT5nfSk4u2A

]]> By: texasaggie http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198983 texasaggie Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:31:59 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198983 "they asked the detainee to suggest a charge he would be willing to plead guilty to." Jaywalking. How about jaywalking? Everybody does that. Or maybe parking in a no parking zone? Spitting on the sidewalk? 35 in a 30 mph school zone? Ripping the "don't remove" labels off his mattress? “they asked the detainee to suggest a charge he would be willing to plead guilty to.”

Jaywalking. How about jaywalking? Everybody does that. Or maybe parking in a no parking zone? Spitting on the sidewalk? 35 in a 30 mph school zone? Ripping the “don’t remove” labels off his mattress?

]]> By: TheOracle http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198969 TheOracle Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:06:41 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198969 My guess about why the Obama administration (and Attorney General Eric Holder) is trying some alleged terrorists in federal court and others in military tribunals is because of the torture issue. There apparently is evidence not derived from torture that can assure a guilty verdict against those being tried in federal court, while the ones being tried before a military tribunal were probably tortured, while being detained on orders of top Bush/Cheney administration officials, and there isn't much evidence, if any evidence not derived from torture, that would assure a guilty verdict. Thus, the Obama administration (and Eric Holder) split the difference, continuing the Bush/Cheney administration's military tribunal policy (meant to keep the torture hidden and keep top Bush officials from being tried for war crimes), while shifting the trials of some detainees to federal court where not-torture-linked evidence will be submitted to a jury, but still in hopes of keeping the torture policies of the previous Bush/Cheney administration "off the record." My guess about why the Obama administration (and Attorney General Eric Holder) is trying some alleged terrorists in federal court and others in military tribunals is because of the torture issue.

There apparently is evidence not derived from torture that can assure a guilty verdict against those being tried in federal court, while the ones being tried before a military tribunal were probably tortured, while being detained on orders of top Bush/Cheney administration officials, and there isn’t much evidence, if any evidence not derived from torture, that would assure a guilty verdict.

Thus, the Obama administration (and Eric Holder) split the difference, continuing the Bush/Cheney administration’s military tribunal policy (meant to keep the torture hidden and keep top Bush officials from being tried for war crimes), while shifting the trials of some detainees to federal court where not-torture-linked evidence will be submitted to a jury, but still in hopes of keeping the torture policies of the previous Bush/Cheney administration “off the record.”

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198960 eCAHNomics Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:57:10 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198960 You hoping to get on the jury? You hoping to get on the jury?

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198958 eCAHNomics Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:50:33 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198958 The kind of moral courage O exhibits often. /s The kind of moral courage O exhibits often. /s

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198957 ThingsComeUndone Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:50:15 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198957 I do want him to go to trial. I want discovery on who tortured him and who gave the order to torture him. I know the GOP is all kinds of scared of this happening. This whole we can't bring these terrorist to trial here is hysteria. But I do have my doubts anyone would be sane after torture he needs therapy first. I do want him to go to trial. I want discovery on who tortured him and who gave the order to torture him. I know the GOP is all kinds of scared of this happening. This whole we can’t bring these terrorist to trial here is hysteria.
But I do have my doubts anyone would be sane after torture he needs therapy first.

]]> By: SadButTrue http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198955 SadButTrue Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:47:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198955 On top of that, the witness statements made shortly after the event were changed after those who were there <em>could have</em> been tampered with by the prosecution. Khadr was shot in the back and no evidence exists that shows he was a threat. That's a war crime that the whole platoon would have an interest in covering up. And the autopsy evidence shows that the shrapnel in the body of the man Khadr supposedly killed came from a US grenade. So there is a motive to cover up a friendly fire incident. The whole case stinks like a three-day-old fish wrapped in a gym sock. On top of that, the witness statements made shortly after the event were changed after those who were there could have been tampered with by the prosecution. Khadr was shot in the back and no evidence exists that shows he was a threat. That’s a war crime that the whole platoon would have an interest in covering up. And the autopsy evidence shows that the shrapnel in the body of the man Khadr supposedly killed came from a US grenade. So there is a motive to cover up a friendly fire incident.

The whole case stinks like a three-day-old fish wrapped in a gym sock.

]]> By: SanderO http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198954 SanderO Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:45:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198954 Probably not. I lost my Gmail... I am trying to figure out if it's my pc or a system down Probably not. I lost my Gmail… I am trying to figure out if it’s my pc or a system down

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198953 ThingsComeUndone Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:41:33 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198953 True but if he is nuts then can there be a trial? True but if he is nuts then can there be a trial?

]]> By: SanderO http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/the-bazaar-for-deals-at-gitmo/#comment-198952 SanderO Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:37:38 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/?p=6025#comment-198952 He will have an attorney who can determine that. no? He will have an attorney who can determine that. no?

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