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	<title>Comments on: Eric Holder on Greg Craig&#8217;s Departure</title>
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		<title>By: HardheadedLiberal</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-199020</link>
		<dc:creator>HardheadedLiberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EW, could Greg Craig&#039;s departure be because he opposed the military commissions?  Greg Greenwald&#039;s post on multi-tiered justice - we pick the amount of due process that guarantees a conviction - makes a lot of sense.  Craig&#039;s departure doesn&#039;t make sense to me on the narrative that Craig opposed accountability for torture - but it makes a lot of sense if Craig opposed the totalitarian decision to embrace the Bush military commissions:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/13/guantanamo/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/13/guantanamo/index.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW, could Greg Craig&#8217;s departure be because he opposed the military commissions?  Greg Greenwald&#8217;s post on multi-tiered justice &#8211; we pick the amount of due process that guarantees a conviction &#8211; makes a lot of sense.  Craig&#8217;s departure doesn&#8217;t make sense to me on the narrative that Craig opposed accountability for torture &#8211; but it makes a lot of sense if Craig opposed the totalitarian decision to embrace the Bush military commissions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/13/guantanamo/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/13/guantanamo/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-199001</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link
Glenn Greenwald

&quot;A restoration of the rule of law -- meaning an end to immunity for high-level political officials who commit crimes -- was a central prong of the Obama campaign.  Those who called for a pardon of Lewis Libby -- even on the oh-so-clever &quot;progressive&quot; political grounds concocted by Bauer -- were as antithetical to that pledge could be.  Yet here is that pro-pardon Washington lawyer now being named as White House counsel.   Then again, one of the few positions more expressive of &quot;Scooter Libby justice&quot; than calling for a pardon of Libby himself is the view that all high-level Bush officials should be immunized from prosecution -- even those who committed grievous war crimes and other serious felonies -- because it&#039;s more important that we &quot;look to the future&quot; than it is to apply the rule of law equally. If immunity for high-level war criminals -- and for lawbreakinng telecoms -- isn&#039;t &quot;Scooter Libby justice,&quot; what is? Viewed that way, Bauer would seem to fit in well in his new position.&quot;


This is depressing.  Keep thinking that we will witness HOlder, Obama, Leahy, Whitehouse&#039;s repeated words that &quot;no one is above the law&quot;  And now we have someone who pushed for a Libby pardon taking Greg Craig&#039;s place.  &quot;No one above the law&quot;  just rings hollow.

Yeah Yeah we are going to witness the 9/11 thugs put on the stand. While Cheney, Bush, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc all of those who have not literally pulled the trigger but have sent hundreds of soldiers to pull the triggers...and hundreds of thousands have died based on a &quot;pack of lies&quot;

Justice...don&#039;t think so.  Have truly lost faith in our justice system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link<br />
Glenn Greenwald</p>
<p>&#8220;A restoration of the rule of law &#8212; meaning an end to immunity for high-level political officials who commit crimes &#8212; was a central prong of the Obama campaign.  Those who called for a pardon of Lewis Libby &#8212; even on the oh-so-clever &#8220;progressive&#8221; political grounds concocted by Bauer &#8212; were as antithetical to that pledge could be.  Yet here is that pro-pardon Washington lawyer now being named as White House counsel.   Then again, one of the few positions more expressive of &#8220;Scooter Libby justice&#8221; than calling for a pardon of Libby himself is the view that all high-level Bush officials should be immunized from prosecution &#8212; even those who committed grievous war crimes and other serious felonies &#8212; because it&#8217;s more important that we &#8220;look to the future&#8221; than it is to apply the rule of law equally. If immunity for high-level war criminals &#8212; and for lawbreakinng telecoms &#8212; isn&#8217;t &#8220;Scooter Libby justice,&#8221; what is? Viewed that way, Bauer would seem to fit in well in his new position.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is depressing.  Keep thinking that we will witness HOlder, Obama, Leahy, Whitehouse&#8217;s repeated words that &#8220;no one is above the law&#8221;  And now we have someone who pushed for a Libby pardon taking Greg Craig&#8217;s place.  &#8220;No one above the law&#8221;  just rings hollow.</p>
<p>Yeah Yeah we are going to witness the 9/11 thugs put on the stand. While Cheney, Bush, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc all of those who have not literally pulled the trigger but have sent hundreds of soldiers to pull the triggers&#8230;and hundreds of thousands have died based on a &#8220;pack of lies&#8221;</p>
<p>Justice&#8230;don&#8217;t think so.  Have truly lost faith in our justice system.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-199000</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure never hear a mention of KSM&#039;s missing children on the MSM.  Not a whisper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure never hear a mention of KSM&#8217;s missing children on the MSM.  Not a whisper</p>
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		<title>By: BayStateLibrul</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-198997</link>
		<dc:creator>BayStateLibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit, I had forgotten that he lobbied for Scooter&#039;s pardon?

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2009/11/14/bauer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit, I had forgotten that he lobbied for Scooter&#8217;s pardon?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2009/11/14/bauer" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2009/11/14/bauer</a></p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-198994</link>
		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loohoo@22

The title of the article from which you took that quote is

&quot;confirm michael mukasey&quot;  by scott horton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loohoo@22</p>
<p>The title of the article from which you took that quote is</p>
<p>&#8220;confirm michael mukasey&#8221;  by scott horton.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-198993</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The replacement is Bob Bauer. I interacted with him briefly once and found him to be a very good lawyer, and a &quot;fuck you take no prisoners&quot; kind of guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The replacement is Bob Bauer. I interacted with him briefly once and found him to be a very good lawyer, and a &#8220;fuck you take no prisoners&#8221; kind of guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-198981</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horton:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I have known Michael Mukasey for over twenty years and I have a pretty good sense of his views on a great many issues. There are not many issues on which we agree, frankly. I am a civil libertarian and human rights advocate. Mukasey is driven by a concern for national security, and his many years on the bench tell him that our criminal justice system is inadequate to the task of trying terrorists. I recently parsed his op-ed in the Wall Street Journal looking for some important points I could agree with, and struggled to find them. Many of the civil liberties that Mukasey sees as vulnerabilities, I see as strengths. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horton:</p>
<blockquote><p>
I have known Michael Mukasey for over twenty years and I have a pretty good sense of his views on a great many issues. There are not many issues on which we agree, frankly. I am a civil libertarian and human rights advocate. Mukasey is driven by a concern for national security, and his many years on the bench tell him that our criminal justice system is inadequate to the task of trying terrorists. I recently parsed his op-ed in the Wall Street Journal looking for some important points I could agree with, and struggled to find them. Many of the civil liberties that Mukasey sees as vulnerabilities, I see as strengths. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;something’s going on between the white house and the doj, even though the “retiree” is white house counsel craig.

i wonder who the replacement will be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

His replacement will be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/12/bob-bauer-to-be-white-hou_n_356337.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bob Bauer&lt;/a&gt;.

Bob in AZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>something’s going on between the white house and the doj, even though the “retiree” is white house counsel craig.</p>
<p>i wonder who the replacement will be.</p></blockquote>
<p>His replacement will be <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/12/bob-bauer-to-be-white-hou_n_356337.html" rel="nofollow">Bob Bauer</a>.</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
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		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loohoo @16

you are correct that leighy did not vote for mukasey.

see here: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9504E0DB173DF934A35752C1A9619C8B63

but the chair of a senate committee, which leighy was and is, can stop a nomination if he/she chooses - leahy did not so choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loohoo @16</p>
<p>you are correct that leighy did not vote for mukasey.</p>
<p>see here: <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9504E0DB173DF934A35752C1A9619C8B63" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9504E0DB173DF934A35752C1A9619C8B63</a></p>
<p>but the chair of a senate committee, which leighy was and is, can stop a nomination if he/she chooses &#8211; leahy did not so choose.</p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/11/13/eric-holder-on-greg-craigs-departure/#comment-198977</link>
		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loohoo @ 16

as an aside,

scott horton considers george will his &quot;favorite tory&quot;.

i consider george will an intellectual poseur and a republican political operative of the first rank, 

in the same vein as alan greenspan and john roberts.

understand, thought, that i also regard scott horton&#039;s webblog as the most emotionally, aesthetically, and intellectually complete weblog on the internet.

the only weblog i know about that demonstrates what power the web has to delight and educate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loohoo @ 16</p>
<p>as an aside,</p>
<p>scott horton considers george will his &#8220;favorite tory&#8221;.</p>
<p>i consider george will an intellectual poseur and a republican political operative of the first rank, </p>
<p>in the same vein as alan greenspan and john roberts.</p>
<p>understand, thought, that i also regard scott horton&#8217;s webblog as the most emotionally, aesthetically, and intellectually complete weblog on the internet.</p>
<p>the only weblog i know about that demonstrates what power the web has to delight and educate.</p>
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