Comments on: Does Cheney’s CYA Document Include False Justifications for Torture?

By: fatster

fatster — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:48:39 +0000

Always feel free to have fun with my attempts at writing; t’would tickle me. And we do need some joy in this world.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:44:17 +0000

Taylor’s son appears to have been tried and convicted, under a somewhat dubious application of the newest version of the US anti-torture provisions, with the death counts being ones in which he personally did the acts. It should be noted that he was arrested on a passport violation and was specifically not charged with the war crimes until the US government made a conclusive determination that such provisions could not be applied to CIA, contractors and other US personnel involved in the so called war on terror and there is, of course, an affirmative defense effectively accomplishing just that written into the law. What you suggest is beyond highly unlikely to ever occur even if there was some root desire or motivation of the US DOJ to so prosecute, and there most assuredly is not. This is a fantasy.

By: alinaustex

alinaustex — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:59:37 +0000

bmaz@ 32
It would appear that some detainees were put to death by torture yes ?
And thanks for clearing up that crimes against humanity issue is not applicable in US Courts – But what statutes was Charles Taylor Jr tried and convicted by down there in Florida a few years back for what he and his daddy did in Sierra Leone ?

By: skdadl

skdadl — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:10:12 +0000

ZOMG! I missed another one! And it is indeed a magnificent dangling modifier, a thing of beauty and a joy forever. On my deathbed, I shall remember that modifier of unsurpassed dangle.

It’s true I missed it, but even if I hadn’t, I probably wouldn’t have said anything. Mostly I wouldn’t do that online, where people are writing fast, although I think it’s good that people help to keep the main post shipshape, ’cause EW’s words are meant to be the deathless prose around here. Oh, and bmaz too. Mary writes songs, and I would never correct those.

I taught English to engineering students for a while, and my lecture on dangling participles was always good for some snickers.

By: fatster

fatster — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:31:32 +0000

And what grade are you going to give me on my dangling modifier? I worked on that thing!

Brickelfritz it is.

By: Leen

Leen — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:13:13 +0000

I know two young men who returned from Iraq during the last several years (one did three tours, the other two). They both sit uptown drink until they are out of their minds,(they were not like this before they served in Iraq) get in fights, deal with deep depression. They are more than likely going to deal with the consequences of serving in Iraq for the rest of their lives.

Bush and Cheney are yellow bellied life suckers…they need to be held accountable for that war based on a “pack of lies” along with their other crimes

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:00:08 +0000

so what is the point of digging deeper into his crimes? If he is never going to be held accountable or have to pay for outing Plame…what is the point?

I don’t think there’s an SOL on treason, or on War Crimes. Not that either is likely, but the more incriminating evidence can be brought to light, the more likely an adverse judgment becomes.

Bob in AZ

By: Leen

Leen — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:48:40 +0000

“and in that error of omission collaborated in the severe wounding of the republic”

And while many Americans would be perfectly happy to have enough money to fill their tanks , put their petals to the metal and get to the mall tobuy more plastic and silk shit from China..this ‘severe wounding” seems to be hot lava flowing just below the crusty surface. Are we watching the empire implode?

By: bmaz

bmaz — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:44:06 +0000

You know, at the root, that really is the deal.

By: fatster

fatster — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:21 +0000

Thanks, Hmmm. Nancy does, but whatcha wanna bet Nancy won’t?