Comments on: Isikoff Doubles Down on His Anonymous Leak from Cheney’s Lawyer

By: freepatriot

freepatriot — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:36:38 +0000

Sadly I have come to understand that over the past say 20 years the powerful and the fourth estate have developed a relationship that makes honest reporting of anything impossible.

it’s not impossible, it’s just really rare

for example: Knight-Ridder reported the bushco “aluminum tube” story accurately and in real time

Pincus has been pretty accurate. And I’d credit Sy Hersh for stopping a bushco bombing of Iran

but we do gotta sort thru a lotta shit to find a nugget of truth

THANK GODDESS FOR MARCY

it isn’t a coincidence that the issue that brought us all together just ain’t goin away

It was TREASON

and ya jes don’t forget something like that

By: Leen

Leen — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:20:49 +0000

And the majority of the peasants out here make $7.50 an hour. And most of the folks out here making $7.50 an hour cannot hire O’Donnell types to keep them from having to testify, spin the facts, and keep them out of prison.

The peasants go to prison for their crimes while the Cheney’s, Feith’s, Addington’s buy or lie their way out.

“no one is above the law” bullshit

By: timr

timr — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:36:06 +0000

much APPLAUSE. Truth in every word.

By: timr

timr — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:34:20 +0000

The entire problem from my POV is that every single one of these people, reporters and their subjects are all in the same village, they are neighbors, vacation together and go to the same parties. Many new reporters want to make “big news” and discover they can do this if they become zerox machines for the powerful. Sadly I have come to understand that over the past say 20 years the powerful and the fourth estate have developed a relationship that makes honest reporting of anything impossible. The corporations and the politically powerful have won this round. The MSM is nothing more than a mouthpiece, telling us only what THEY want us to know. Thus making amcits the most ignorant of all the first world countries. We hear little or nothing about the world. The major news stories are truncated and shaped according to what the oligarchs want.
Which is why I am no longer surprised about what we hear about the health care issue vs what we can actually discover if we go to other sources. Like CSpan, the BBC and CBC-Canadian Broadcasting Corp along with Japanese, Chinese and Korean news we can find out what is really going on. But even there if the corps get their way many of these news channels will be cut off thru the net neutrality issue(the opposition is back, bigger and badder than ever. Word of its death were false). This is the way that we the sheeple are manipulated and FNS has garnered a good sized portion of the sheeple audience. The sheeple as a mob. Which is why I am advising all my kids to migrate to another country if and when they can. My vision of the future is getting bleak, the US experiment is ending, not with a bang but with a wimper drowned out by the rabble rousers on fns who preach violence mearly to raise their ratings. I will admit that the years from the late 60s to 2000 were a real rush, exciting and full of wonder at the technological marvels. We went from mans first powered flight to landing on the moon in my grandmothers lifetime 1901 to 1999. In my lifetime we went from massive analog computers to very small desk and laptop computers. A feat I consider comparable to the first powered flight. And now? We have exported our knowledge to other countries so we can buy cheap junk. Inundated with ads, the sheeple responded by spending what they did not have to buy what they did not need. Greed came to be king in the 21st century with the new bankers changing the laws that protected the sheeple from themselves to allow the bankers to fleece the flock, at their own urgings. With hate and division on the rise, the dems, taking over from 8 years of rethug excess find themselves at the mercy of an MSM that clearly is in bed with the rethugs and their owners, the multicorps. Sadly, many dems have also joined the rethugs, money it seems means more than whatever principles they might have had. Having ensured that legal bribery of congress continues all I see in the future is a 1984 world, made real at last. History, after all, belongs only to the winners, who change it to suit themselves. Crap, the news, or what passes for news, made me very depressed.

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:33:12 +0000

O’Donnell probably makes $750 an hour to zealously advocate the best possible interpretation of fact and spin for his client, Dick Cheney. When in office, Cheney and Shrub had entire taxpayer funded press departments to do the same, not to mention the well-paid RNC and other Gooper machinery.

The public needs its “journalists” to investigate what their sources tell them. You know, demand corroboration before printing, texting, tweeting and publishing. Even if what’s leaked is true, the far bigger story may be who’s leaking, why they are leaking, or why now. It may be what or whose story they are leaving out or trying to override in order to convey a different story or one more apparently complete than it is.

Anonymity the way Isikoff and his clones use it covers not only sources; it covers sloppy, lazy and spurious reporting. It’s the sort of thing opinion writers do when they need to invent a claim that everybody (who can promote their well-being) is a bourgeois bohemian.

By: MadDog

MadDog — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:27:50 +0000

...Also, somewhat bizarrely, Isikoff appears to mis-attribute a comment Cheney made to the NYT...

If I may be so bold here EW, let me throw out a theory and see what folks think. I wonder if Mikey Isikoff got this very "scoop" here? And the underpinnings of my theory go like this. Mikey Isikoff picked up the "scoop" here, because he rushed right over as a lurker when he heard the news of Cheney's interview being made public to see if he could pick the brains of the blogger journalist who he knew was the foremost authority on all things regarding the Valerie Plame Wilson betrayal. Now let me further embellish my theory. When I threw that comment out there Friday night (before Mikey's story), that's what I thought immediately at the time that I wrote. Mikey may have taken my comment, and your lack of immediate disagreement as indicating Gospel according to EW! Oh joy, a scoobie-do-super scoop! And reflect on the timing. When I wrote that comment (and asked if anyone disagreed), I hadn't yet got to the portion of Cheney's interview where he's specifically quoted talking about both the NYT and Judy Miller. That was only a couple minutes more of reading, but I hadn't got there yet! And furthermore, if Mikey was hanging around here looking for a scoobie-do-super scoop, no one specifically disabused my "supposed" NYT/Judy Miller association of that redacted part; at least not obliquely until your next post and your comment here. And in the meantime, Mikey Isikoff had a column due, so wham, bam, thank-you ma'am, off he ran. By the time your later post and comment was up, (and remember your posts were coming fast and furiously so it wasn't much time at all), I was now past the part of Cheney's interview where he was quoted talking about both the NYT and Judy Miller, and like your comment, I was regretting my earlier speculation that the redacted part was about the NYT and Judy Miller. So, whaddya think? Pretty "good" theory, huh? LOL!

By: klynn

klynn — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:25:54 +0000

THAT is one impressive link there. Go Marcy! You are redefining authority! Which is a foundation of democracy.

Marcy Wheeler Rebuilding the Foundation of Democracy.

We need to continue to capture authority back. It has been taken from We The People. Support Marcy!

By: Leen

Leen — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:09:14 +0000

“I found it interesting how some agents were members of the government media.”

Lots of people have been wondering about many of some of our so called premiere journalist. Observing and being outraged by the “groupthink” that took place in the run up to the bloody immoral and illegal invasion of Iraq was infuriating and telling. Hell it was more than “groupthink”. Judy Miller led the way on feeding the American public false intelligence.

These journalist not only sentenced millions of Iraqi’s to death they sentenced some of their news outlets to deserved criticism. Folks flooded to the internet after many journalist fed Americans and the world the Bush administrations lies about WMD’s
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Look at what Rep Ros Lehtinen ,Rep Berman, Rep Ackerman are trying to pass through congressional pipelines this week
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=hr111-867
H. RES. 867

Calling on the President and the Secretary of State to oppose unequivocally any endorsement or further consideration of the ‘Report of the United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict’ in multilateral fora.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 23, 2009

Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN (for herself, Mr. BERMAN, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, and Mr. ACKERMAN) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs

this is an interesting article
Goldstone v. Ros-Lehtinen and Berman

Judge Goldstone Responds to Ros Lehtinen and Bermans efforts to take a dump on the Goldstone Report
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/10/30/1008853/goldstone-v-ros-lehtinen-and-berman

By: fatster

fatster — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:59:23 +0000

Melanie Sloan of CREW discussing the transcript release with Rachel Maddow.

By: fatster

fatster — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:42:39 +0000

No reference to Marcy, but here is the AP take on the Cheney FBI interview. Bold step forward: they used the term 'equivocation'.