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	<title>Comments on: Rachel Needs to Start a &#8220;Hall of Afraid&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: worldwidehappiness</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/29/rachel-needs-to-start-a-hall-of-afraid/#comment-196479</link>
		<dc:creator>worldwidehappiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Perris&lt;/strong&gt;,

Of course, since Dems are Rightwing, it means:

&lt;strong&gt;Most Firedoglake readers are rightwing voters!&lt;/strong&gt;

One step away from neocons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Perris</strong>,</p>
<p>Of course, since Dems are Rightwing, it means:</p>
<p><strong>Most Firedoglake readers are rightwing voters!</strong></p>
<p>One step away from neocons!</p>
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		<title>By: knowbuddhau</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/29/rachel-needs-to-start-a-hall-of-afraid/#comment-196395</link>
		<dc:creator>knowbuddhau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude&#039;s bought and paid for.  Great suggestion, EW.  Note how Joe the Neocon Mole uses their trademark &quot;noble lie&quot; shtick.  He&#039;s the poster boy for political Perkinsian hit men, the NSA-holes who&#039;ve been perverting our shared narrative to their selfish benefit using weapons-grade lies since the advent of the Cold War and their hideous weaponization of psychology.

Believe it or not, &lt;i&gt;The Men Who Stared At Goats&lt;/i&gt; is a perfect case in point.  It was an effort to weaponize psychotechnics.  See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project MKULTRA, The CIA&#039;s Program of Research in Behavioral Modification&lt;/a&gt;.

Theirs is a Newtonian cosmos of points in absolute vacuums; ours is a post-Einsteinian cosmos of seamless fields and self-emptying vessels.  Just as no one word can contain its own source,  there&#039;s just no way a segment of a field can forever dominate the whole.  By &quot;connecting the dots,&quot; busting their divisive myths, we come back together like water following a knife: indivisible by our very nature.  This really is the source of the power of the people.  It is not other than what we are doing right here and now.

And dustbbunny44, check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/30/glenn&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;great coverage by Glenn Greenwald on Democracy Now! this morning&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8217;s bought and paid for.  Great suggestion, EW.  Note how Joe the Neocon Mole uses their trademark &#8220;noble lie&#8221; shtick.  He&#8217;s the poster boy for political Perkinsian hit men, the NSA-holes who&#8217;ve been perverting our shared narrative to their selfish benefit using weapons-grade lies since the advent of the Cold War and their hideous weaponization of psychology.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, <i>The Men Who Stared At Goats</i> is a perfect case in point.  It was an effort to weaponize psychotechnics.  See also <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/index.htm" rel="nofollow">Project MKULTRA, The CIA&#8217;s Program of Research in Behavioral Modification</a>.</p>
<p>Theirs is a Newtonian cosmos of points in absolute vacuums; ours is a post-Einsteinian cosmos of seamless fields and self-emptying vessels.  Just as no one word can contain its own source,  there&#8217;s just no way a segment of a field can forever dominate the whole.  By &#8220;connecting the dots,&#8221; busting their divisive myths, we come back together like water following a knife: indivisible by our very nature.  This really is the source of the power of the people.  It is not other than what we are doing right here and now.</p>
<p>And dustbbunny44, check out the <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/30/glenn" rel="nofollow">great coverage by Glenn Greenwald on Democracy Now! this morning</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/29/rachel-needs-to-start-a-hall-of-afraid/#comment-196392</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>halloween and football make a happy convergence this weekend, so trashtalk should follow that theme

given the favorite player of a certain host, I suggest an Old Men and Children theme

something like a &quot;GET OF MY LAWN&quot; trash talk seems appropriate

too bad the Phillies used Pedro last night, instead of saving him for Sunday

we coulda had an &quot;OLDER THAN DIRT&quot; double feature

(duckin &amp; runnin)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>halloween and football make a happy convergence this weekend, so trashtalk should follow that theme</p>
<p>given the favorite player of a certain host, I suggest an Old Men and Children theme</p>
<p>something like a &#8220;GET OF MY LAWN&#8221; trash talk seems appropriate</p>
<p>too bad the Phillies used Pedro last night, instead of saving him for Sunday</p>
<p>we coulda had an &#8220;OLDER THAN DIRT&#8221; double feature</p>
<p>(duckin &amp; runnin)</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A list of folks that would be great to see on Rachels, Keiths, Matthews, Ed.

Micheal Ledeen, James Woolsey, Bill Kristol, Wurmsers, Bolton, Cheney, Feith, Rosen, Weissman, Franklin

guest list, Lt Col Karen Kwiatowski, Flynnt Leverett, Juan Cole,Scott Ritter, Judge Goldstone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A list of folks that would be great to see on Rachels, Keiths, Matthews, Ed.</p>
<p>Micheal Ledeen, James Woolsey, Bill Kristol, Wurmsers, Bolton, Cheney, Feith, Rosen, Weissman, Franklin</p>
<p>guest list, Lt Col Karen Kwiatowski, Flynnt Leverett, Juan Cole,Scott Ritter, Judge Goldstone</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I celebrate Rachel&#039;s efforts to shine the light on many issues. She is obviously brilliant.

But Rachel has her own &quot; Hall of afraid&quot; issues that she will not touch on her program.  The one time she mentioned the Aipac espionage trial was once it was dismissed.  She never ever touched this issue while Rosen/Weissman were being investigated or while the trial was being delayed 9 times. When she did mention it it was done in a way that was dismissive and &quot;much ado about nothing&quot;  

She  did not even whisper about the UN Goldstone Report.  Charles Freeman being thrown off the bus etc.  The Lancet report or other reports about the Iraqi dead, injured, displaced.

  Oh yes Rachel has her own &quot; Hall of afraid&quot; list.

As well as Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann 

How in the hell can these people spend so much time on Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh.  When there has not been one person or persons held accountable for all of that fucking false pre war intelligence.  

I know &quot;move on, turn the page, next chapter, do not be about vengeance, retribution&quot;  I have heard all of this horseshit coming out of the mouths of our Reps, Karl Rove, Cheney the Obama administration etc.

Just wondering when Chris Matthews, RAchel, Keith will start bringing a few of the tens of thousands of Vets who are returning from Iraq and Afghanistan without a few limbs on their programs.  Chris Matthews prodcast from Walter Reed in 2004 or 05.  Not much since then.

Show Americans the pictures, count the dead in Iraq, the injurd, the displaced.  Or continue to be part of the news that keeps Americans in their beloved bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I celebrate Rachel&#8217;s efforts to shine the light on many issues. She is obviously brilliant.</p>
<p>But Rachel has her own &#8221; Hall of afraid&#8221; issues that she will not touch on her program.  The one time she mentioned the Aipac espionage trial was once it was dismissed.  She never ever touched this issue while Rosen/Weissman were being investigated or while the trial was being delayed 9 times. When she did mention it it was done in a way that was dismissive and &#8220;much ado about nothing&#8221;  </p>
<p>She  did not even whisper about the UN Goldstone Report.  Charles Freeman being thrown off the bus etc.  The Lancet report or other reports about the Iraqi dead, injured, displaced.</p>
<p>  Oh yes Rachel has her own &#8221; Hall of afraid&#8221; list.</p>
<p>As well as Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann </p>
<p>How in the hell can these people spend so much time on Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh.  When there has not been one person or persons held accountable for all of that fucking false pre war intelligence.  </p>
<p>I know &#8220;move on, turn the page, next chapter, do not be about vengeance, retribution&#8221;  I have heard all of this horseshit coming out of the mouths of our Reps, Karl Rove, Cheney the Obama administration etc.</p>
<p>Just wondering when Chris Matthews, RAchel, Keith will start bringing a few of the tens of thousands of Vets who are returning from Iraq and Afghanistan without a few limbs on their programs.  Chris Matthews prodcast from Walter Reed in 2004 or 05.  Not much since then.</p>
<p>Show Americans the pictures, count the dead in Iraq, the injurd, the displaced.  Or continue to be part of the news that keeps Americans in their beloved bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the oily taint fot slapped by another judge ???

what a surprise

do these people ever get a clue ???

and with regard to &quot;brownies&quot;: you can put chilis or chocolate chips, but if yer butter ain&#039;t green, yer jes wastin yet time

and cookies are better than brownies folks ...

jes sayin, is all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the oily taint fot slapped by another judge ???</p>
<p>what a surprise</p>
<p>do these people ever get a clue ???</p>
<p>and with regard to &#8220;brownies&#8221;: you can put chilis or chocolate chips, but if yer butter ain&#8217;t green, yer jes wastin yet time</p>
<p>and cookies are better than brownies folks &#8230;</p>
<p>jes sayin, is all</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, &lt;i&gt;Alan Keyes&lt;/i&gt; was in on this too?  How -- &lt;em&gt;perfect&lt;/em&gt;.  He&#039;s the crazed radioactive cherry on this shit sundae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, <i>Alan Keyes</i> was in on this too?  How &#8212; <em>perfect</em>.  He&#8217;s the crazed radioactive cherry on this shit sundae.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingbat delenda est.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingbat delenda est.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In America your choice is Right (Democrats) and Far-Right (Republicans). We have mildly-Left (Labor) and mildly-Right (Liberal).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

one of the most astute comments relating to political preferance I have seen in a long time

democrats should use that when on teevee

as a matter of fact, dean should have used that when he debated rove, rove used a statistic claiming a majority of americans refer to themselves as &quot;concervative&quot;

if dean had your paragraph in the &quot;debate folder&quot; of his brain he would have whipped that out and rove would have went nutzo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In America your choice is Right (Democrats) and Far-Right (Republicans). We have mildly-Left (Labor) and mildly-Right (Liberal).</p></blockquote>
<p>one of the most astute comments relating to political preferance I have seen in a long time</p>
<p>democrats should use that when on teevee</p>
<p>as a matter of fact, dean should have used that when he debated rove, rove used a statistic claiming a majority of americans refer to themselves as &#8220;concervative&#8221;</p>
<p>if dean had your paragraph in the &#8220;debate folder&#8221; of his brain he would have whipped that out and rove would have went nutzo</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT - but, too &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/chris-christie-im-pretty-_n_339322.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Funny&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;Chris Christie says Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine should quit hinting at his weight with unflattering ads and &quot;Man up and say I&#039;m fat.&quot;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT &#8211; but, too <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/chris-christie-im-pretty-_n_339322.html" rel="nofollow">Funny</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Chris Christie says Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine should quit hinting at his weight with unflattering ads and &#8220;Man up and say I&#8217;m fat.&#8221;"</p>
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