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	<title>Comments on: Mark Sanford Goes Galt</title>
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		<title>By: gotoL</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/23/mark-sanford-goes-galt/#comment-196057</link>
		<dc:creator>gotoL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Not having read all the comments] Let me add:  Sanford is &quot;Randy&quot; alright. And I think its time to get out the Purell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Not having read all the comments] Let me add:  Sanford is &#8220;Randy&#8221; alright. And I think its time to get out the Purell.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/23/mark-sanford-goes-galt/#comment-196053</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, well, some of the conservative are actually dumb enough to compare Goldberg and Malkin to Greenspan I bet.  Not that Greenspan is any Einstein or anything, but he clearly has a good jump on those two.

See, thread not totally dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, well, some of the conservative are actually dumb enough to compare Goldberg and Malkin to Greenspan I bet.  Not that Greenspan is any Einstein or anything, but he clearly has a good jump on those two.</p>
<p>See, thread not totally dead.</p>
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		<title>By: oleo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/23/mark-sanford-goes-galt/#comment-196052</link>
		<dc:creator>oleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is surely a dead thread by now (you can always tell a dead Rand thread when someone claims to be a lib who likes her or her books), but...the best commentary on Rand I&#039;ve seen in the last 30 years (well, except for Rush&#039;s 2112--great record!) must be the anonymous econ blogger (can&#039;t seem to find a link, but it might&#039;ve been The Mogambo Guru) who related a story about an acquaintance who was certain that Greenspan was trying to fashion himself as Roark through his endless facilitation of the banksters and his bottomless ability to find ways to prop up Wall Street. Of course, the assumption was that the eventual crash would be catastrophic beyond belief and beyond repair and would then lead to a renaissance in which Greenspan would be the hero who showed us our errors...except this was in the 90&#039;s before the tech bubble burst and before Mr. Andrea Mitchell went on to facilitate the housing bubble and long before AG actually admitted his &#039;mistake&#039; before Congress. In terms of this background, it&#039;s hard to see Greenspan as much more than a stupid Roark (possibly blowing himself up rather than his creation) and that makes all of these latest Johns Galt/Randians look positively asinine in comparison(unless anyone thinks Jonah Goldberg or Michelle Malkin compares favorably with Alan Greenspan in the smarts department).&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is surely a dead thread by now (you can always tell a dead Rand thread when someone claims to be a lib who likes her or her books), but&#8230;the best commentary on Rand I&#8217;ve seen in the last 30 years (well, except for Rush&#8217;s 2112&#8211;great record!) must be the anonymous econ blogger (can&#8217;t seem to find a link, but it might&#8217;ve been The Mogambo Guru) who related a story about an acquaintance who was certain that Greenspan was trying to fashion himself as Roark through his endless facilitation of the banksters and his bottomless ability to find ways to prop up Wall Street. Of course, the assumption was that the eventual crash would be catastrophic beyond belief and beyond repair and would then lead to a renaissance in which Greenspan would be the hero who showed us our errors&#8230;except this was in the 90&#8242;s before the tech bubble burst and before Mr. Andrea Mitchell went on to facilitate the housing bubble and long before AG actually admitted his &#8216;mistake&#8217; before Congress. In terms of this background, it&#8217;s hard to see Greenspan as much more than a stupid Roark (possibly blowing himself up rather than his creation) and that makes all of these latest Johns Galt/Randians look positively asinine in comparison(unless anyone thinks Jonah Goldberg or Michelle Malkin compares favorably with Alan Greenspan in the smarts department).<br />
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		<title>By: mario</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/23/mark-sanford-goes-galt/#comment-195825</link>
		<dc:creator>mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, someone really needs to start talking about how Ellsworth Toohey is the model for all of the right-wing think tanks that have sprung up in the last 30 years.

I happen to be a lib who likes the Fountainhead, and reading about Toohey is the perfect way to understand how today&#039;s media works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, someone really needs to start talking about how Ellsworth Toohey is the model for all of the right-wing think tanks that have sprung up in the last 30 years.</p>
<p>I happen to be a lib who likes the Fountainhead, and reading about Toohey is the perfect way to understand how today&#8217;s media works.</p>
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		<title>By: jimcaserta</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/23/mark-sanford-goes-galt/#comment-195801</link>
		<dc:creator>jimcaserta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain how Ellsworth Toohey &amp; Peter Keating are Democrats?  Who in society would they most represent...oh bankers &amp; other management types.  What party do those people congregate to?  Oh, ok, carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain how Ellsworth Toohey &amp; Peter Keating are Democrats?  Who in society would they most represent&#8230;oh bankers &amp; other management types.  What party do those people congregate to?  Oh, ok, carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/23/mark-sanford-goes-galt/#comment-195791</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post:)</p>
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		<title>By: seraphx</title>
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		<dc:creator>seraphx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find most amusing about GOP appropriating Ayn Rand is that they categorically ignore her atheism.  Why don&#039;t these religious zealots realize she absolutely held Christianity in contempt?  

In regards to her philosophy, I think it&#039;s certainly interesting, but it holds a host of assumptions that are generally untrue.  She&#039;s certainly an interesting figure but not one that should be taken too seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find most amusing about GOP appropriating Ayn Rand is that they categorically ignore her atheism.  Why don&#8217;t these religious zealots realize she absolutely held Christianity in contempt?  </p>
<p>In regards to her philosophy, I think it&#8217;s certainly interesting, but it holds a host of assumptions that are generally untrue.  She&#8217;s certainly an interesting figure but not one that should be taken too seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.  Maybe this is the GOP comeback strategy -- pick up youngsters in their Ayn Rand phase?  And try to arrest their development at that (infantile) point by providing a powerful peer-approval network?  Before their consciences kick in?

Wow.  What an admission of we-got-nothin&#039; that would be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.  Maybe this is the GOP comeback strategy &#8212; pick up youngsters in their Ayn Rand phase?  And try to arrest their development at that (infantile) point by providing a powerful peer-approval network?  Before their consciences kick in?</p>
<p>Wow.  What an admission of we-got-nothin&#8217; that would be!</p>
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		<title>By: onitgoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>onitgoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many others, I read Rand in high school; found her somewhat interesting for a brief, head-scratching period; then realized how stupid her &quot;vision&quot; was. Quite simply: it makes no sense and cannot be achieved without collaboration, assistance, coercion or enslavement of others to achieve the ends. Ranch Santa Fe types can whine all they want about not wanting to pay taxes, but they&#039;re the first ones with their hands out when the wild fires sweep across San Diego County, believe me. 

That Newsweek can publish such bunk from a phillandering dope who eschewed his duties to his family, his so-called &quot;church&quot; and his constituents indicates how far it has sunk to make some kind of a buck.  But no surprises there. I never read it, myself, except for occassional excerpts like this online, which go to prove why it&#039;s a crapulous waste of time.

I wonder that the C Street Family BOYS (yes, I know some females are allowed, but I bet it&#039;s only because they feel forced to do so) aren&#039;t questioning their move to extend the size of their group. 

I get the feeling (not based on anything factual, so I could be wrong) that they used to be much more clannish and a smaller group of rich fat cats.  Perhaps they needed more money or something bc they have expanded their base, and now many of these Christo-facist churchie types (usually male) follow their lead across the nation.

That&#039;s how Jeffery Sharlot got to infiltrate and learn about them (I know OF someone who lived in &quot;Family&quot; housing in MD, where I believe Sharlot did).  Seems like their evil little philosophy - which can pretty much can be summed up as: bc I believe in Jesus, he has already forgiven me for anything and everything; therefore, I can do whatever the frack I like, up to and including fornication, adultry, murder, stealing, raping, diddling kids, you name it - is being adopted by the many, rather than just the select few.  And hence, more of us are actually seeing who&#039;s behind the curtain.

My feeling is that C Street types will go more underground and become much more selective and even more secretive and more like the old-school rich guys club that it used to be.  Too many hoi-poli are ruining their game.

Why Sanford feels ok about barfing out crap like this is beyond me.  I guess he thinks it gives him some kind of moral gravitas. It&#039;s really beyond me how these slimes can look in the mirror or sleep at night, but I gave up trying to figure them out a long time ago.

And yes, it is disturbing that more often than not, this is who is running our gov&#039;t and our industry, etc.  Behold the men behind the curtain! Pretty sad, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many others, I read Rand in high school; found her somewhat interesting for a brief, head-scratching period; then realized how stupid her &#8220;vision&#8221; was. Quite simply: it makes no sense and cannot be achieved without collaboration, assistance, coercion or enslavement of others to achieve the ends. Ranch Santa Fe types can whine all they want about not wanting to pay taxes, but they&#8217;re the first ones with their hands out when the wild fires sweep across San Diego County, believe me. </p>
<p>That Newsweek can publish such bunk from a phillandering dope who eschewed his duties to his family, his so-called &#8220;church&#8221; and his constituents indicates how far it has sunk to make some kind of a buck.  But no surprises there. I never read it, myself, except for occassional excerpts like this online, which go to prove why it&#8217;s a crapulous waste of time.</p>
<p>I wonder that the C Street Family BOYS (yes, I know some females are allowed, but I bet it&#8217;s only because they feel forced to do so) aren&#8217;t questioning their move to extend the size of their group. </p>
<p>I get the feeling (not based on anything factual, so I could be wrong) that they used to be much more clannish and a smaller group of rich fat cats.  Perhaps they needed more money or something bc they have expanded their base, and now many of these Christo-facist churchie types (usually male) follow their lead across the nation.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how Jeffery Sharlot got to infiltrate and learn about them (I know OF someone who lived in &#8220;Family&#8221; housing in MD, where I believe Sharlot did).  Seems like their evil little philosophy &#8211; which can pretty much can be summed up as: bc I believe in Jesus, he has already forgiven me for anything and everything; therefore, I can do whatever the frack I like, up to and including fornication, adultry, murder, stealing, raping, diddling kids, you name it &#8211; is being adopted by the many, rather than just the select few.  And hence, more of us are actually seeing who&#8217;s behind the curtain.</p>
<p>My feeling is that C Street types will go more underground and become much more selective and even more secretive and more like the old-school rich guys club that it used to be.  Too many hoi-poli are ruining their game.</p>
<p>Why Sanford feels ok about barfing out crap like this is beyond me.  I guess he thinks it gives him some kind of moral gravitas. It&#8217;s really beyond me how these slimes can look in the mirror or sleep at night, but I gave up trying to figure them out a long time ago.</p>
<p>And yes, it is disturbing that more often than not, this is who is running our gov&#8217;t and our industry, etc.  Behold the men behind the curtain! Pretty sad, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: tjfxh</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjfxh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone break it to Gov. Sanford that Ayn Rand was a devout atheist.</description>
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