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	<title>Comments on: Feingold: We&#8217;re Not the Prosecutors&#8217; Committee, We&#8217;re the Judiciary Committee</title>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193810</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;…there’s way more gray hair out there than anyone suspected… &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does Grecian Formula have any bomb-making ingredients?&lt;br /&gt;
It does have Lead, however, so I had to get my wife to “do” my hair with Clairol hair coloring instead (She has something against gray hair.) Does Clairol have any bomb-making ingredients that I need to be worried about?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in AZ&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>…there’s way more gray hair out there than anyone suspected… </p>
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<p>Does Grecian Formula have any bomb-making ingredients?<br />
It does have Lead, however, so I had to get my wife to “do” my hair with Clairol hair coloring instead (She has something against gray hair.) Does Clairol have any bomb-making ingredients that I need to be worried about?</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spector?? Voting with Feingold on everything???&lt;br /&gt;
Has he had some sort of Road to Damascus experience?&lt;br /&gt;
Or is he just reacting to his upcoming primary battle with Joe Sestak?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in AZ&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spector?? Voting with Feingold on everything???<br />
Has he had some sort of Road to Damascus experience?<br />
Or is he just reacting to his upcoming primary battle with Joe Sestak?</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193781</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Already wrote the Bill of Rights for the Conservatution today: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gives you space to add in an amendment about controlling the womb of the lesser sex and another for “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already wrote the Bill of Rights for the Conservatution today: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10.</p>
<p>Gives you space to add in an amendment about controlling the womb of the lesser sex and another for “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”</p>
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		<title>By: Jim White</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193780</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The good Senator Feingold is right &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/8/791144/-Its-Not-the-Prosecutors-Committee,-its-the-Judiciary-Committee&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pissed off&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before I get into the specific provisions that concern me, I want to say how disappointed I was in the debate in the committee.  Today particularly, I started to feel as if too many members of the committee from both parties are willing to accept uncritically whatever the executive branch says about even the most reasonable proposed changes in the law.  Of course we should consider the perspective of the FBI and the Justice Department.  Keeping Americans safe is everyone’s priority.  But we also need to consider a full range of perspectives and come to our own conclusions about how best to protect the American people and preserve their freedoms.  Protecting the rights of innocent people should be a part of that equation.  It’s not the Prosecutors’ Committee; it’s the Judiciary Committee. And whether the executive branch powers are overbroad is something we have to decide.  The only people we should be deferring to are the American people, as we try to protect them from terrorism without infringing on their freedoms.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am also very troubled that administration officials have been taking positions behind closed doors that they are not taking publicly.  I am pleased that we have not heard the type of public fear-mongering from this administration that was such a regular part of the discourse in the past.  But if the administration wanted to further water down the already limited reforms in the bill that was on the table, they should have said so openly.  Instead, at our only public hearing we were told that the Justice Department did not have positions on the crucial issues about to be discussed.  Then, over the past week, in classified settings, the Department has weighed in against even some of the limited reforms that Sen. Leahy originally proposed.  That led to the unusual spectacle today where many members of the committee based their decision to further weaken the bill on a classified briefing held yesterday, but could not fully discuss or debate their reasons.  As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I am privy to every bit of the classified information that was referred to today.  And nothing presented in the classified briefings justifies the failure to address the real problems with the expiring Patriot Act provisions and other intrusive powers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;h/t Glenzilla’s latest update.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good Senator Feingold is right <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/8/791144/-Its-Not-the-Prosecutors-Committee,-its-the-Judiciary-Committee" rel="nofollow">pissed off</a>:</p>
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<p>Before I get into the specific provisions that concern me, I want to say how disappointed I was in the debate in the committee.  Today particularly, I started to feel as if too many members of the committee from both parties are willing to accept uncritically whatever the executive branch says about even the most reasonable proposed changes in the law.  Of course we should consider the perspective of the FBI and the Justice Department.  Keeping Americans safe is everyone’s priority.  But we also need to consider a full range of perspectives and come to our own conclusions about how best to protect the American people and preserve their freedoms.  Protecting the rights of innocent people should be a part of that equation.  It’s not the Prosecutors’ Committee; it’s the Judiciary Committee. And whether the executive branch powers are overbroad is something we have to decide.  The only people we should be deferring to are the American people, as we try to protect them from terrorism without infringing on their freedoms.  </p>
<p>I am also very troubled that administration officials have been taking positions behind closed doors that they are not taking publicly.  I am pleased that we have not heard the type of public fear-mongering from this administration that was such a regular part of the discourse in the past.  But if the administration wanted to further water down the already limited reforms in the bill that was on the table, they should have said so openly.  Instead, at our only public hearing we were told that the Justice Department did not have positions on the crucial issues about to be discussed.  Then, over the past week, in classified settings, the Department has weighed in against even some of the limited reforms that Sen. Leahy originally proposed.  That led to the unusual spectacle today where many members of the committee based their decision to further weaken the bill on a classified briefing held yesterday, but could not fully discuss or debate their reasons.  As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, I am privy to every bit of the classified information that was referred to today.  And nothing presented in the classified briefings justifies the failure to address the real problems with the expiring Patriot Act provisions and other intrusive powers.</p>
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<p>h/t Glenzilla’s latest update.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So how does this thing work?  Does the Star Chamber follow guidelines from the Prosecutor Committee or is it easier for the Committee to come along after the fact and rubber stamp anything they want?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Conservapedia might want to move their Conservatution project ahead of the Conservabible.  Getting those Star Chambers down in writing is pretty important.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how does this thing work?  Does the Star Chamber follow guidelines from the Prosecutor Committee or is it easier for the Committee to come along after the fact and rubber stamp anything they want?</p>
<p>Conservapedia might want to move their Conservatution project ahead of the Conservabible.  Getting those Star Chambers down in writing is pretty important.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193775</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I dunno, they have done pretty well staking themselves out as the Prosecutor Committee for a long time now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I dunno, they have done pretty well staking themselves out as the Prosecutor Committee for a long time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193772</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And in mere moments, American society is changed as during the next six months we discover that 75% of the blondes out there actually aren’t, there’s way more gray hair out there than anyone suspected, and nail polish becomes a thing of the past…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and there’s also an uptick in infections, because people can’t wash out cuts with cheap hydrogen peroxide anymore.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in mere moments, American society is changed as during the next six months we discover that 75% of the blondes out there actually aren’t, there’s way more gray hair out there than anyone suspected, and nail polish becomes a thing of the past…</p>
<p>Oh, and there’s also an uptick in infections, because people can’t wash out cuts with cheap hydrogen peroxide anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim White</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193769</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, I agree on Leahy.  Sounds pretty upset about being called out for something that is painfully obvious, doesn’t he?  Truth is becoming more and more out of bounds in our government…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I agree on Leahy.  Sounds pretty upset about being called out for something that is painfully obvious, doesn’t he?  Truth is becoming more and more out of bounds in our government…</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/feingold-were-not-the-prosecutor-committee-were-the-judiciary-committee/#comment-193768</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty sure it’s not Specter. He voted with Feingold on everything today and I think he was out of the room by that point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty sure it’s not Specter. He voted with Feingold on everything today and I think he was out of the room by that point.</p>
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		<title>By: SaltinWound</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaltinWound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That does sound like Leahy. My only other candidate is Specter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That does sound like Leahy. My only other candidate is Specter.</p>
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