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	<title>Comments on: Crazy Pete Hoekstra: Obama Must Torture</title>
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		<title>By: tinman1967</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinman1967</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hoekstra is exactly correct.&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoekstra is exactly correct.<br />
Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: lllphd</title>
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		<dc:creator>lllphd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what an absolutely kinky strategy for the repugs to withdraw from the SSCI investigation, so they can call partisan witchhunt when it’s all over.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my god, these creeps are beyond depraved.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what an absolutely kinky strategy for the repugs to withdraw from the SSCI investigation, so they can call partisan witchhunt when it’s all over.</p>
<p>my god, these creeps are beyond depraved.</p>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;jkh, you might have something there.  Perhaps it is time for public “trials” where there are Prosecutors For The People instead of the bums we’ve got gladhanding each other at the moment.  Seriously, the torture issue was pushed forward significantly, as were civil liberties issues, by marginalized citizens and politicians in the past.  We need mock trials for the various political figures so that we can actually get some action out of our “representatives in Washington” who presumably have taken oaths to uphold the Constitution…which those self-same glad handing so-called “representatives” seem to have neglected willfully at their convenience…and at our, the peoples, expense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jkh, you might have something there.  Perhaps it is time for public “trials” where there are Prosecutors For The People instead of the bums we’ve got gladhanding each other at the moment.  Seriously, the torture issue was pushed forward significantly, as were civil liberties issues, by marginalized citizens and politicians in the past.  We need mock trials for the various political figures so that we can actually get some action out of our “representatives in Washington” who presumably have taken oaths to uphold the Constitution…which those self-same glad handing so-called “representatives” seem to have neglected willfully at their convenience…and at our, the peoples, expense.</p>
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		<title>By: johnhkennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnhkennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Every time I’m just about to give up&lt;/strong&gt; one of the right wingers does something so disgusting, so absurd, so dangerous that one just has to hang in there for a little longer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Lets all work together to see some of the Bush-Cheney scum jailed for their lawbreaking.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Get out in the streets&lt;/strong&gt; in front of your Congressional Representative’s office and raise hell. Start your own “prosecution” protest group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;KEEP ASKING ALL POLITICIANS AT ALL PUBLIC EVENTS&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“WHY DO YOU SUPPORT TORTURE?”&lt;br /&gt;
If they aren’t actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws, They DO Support Torture and a dual standard of Justice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SIGN THE PETITIONS&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Demanding&lt;br /&gt;
prosecution for all those leaders&lt;br /&gt;
in Bush’s Administration that&lt;br /&gt;
Conspired to Torture at &lt;strong&gt;ANGRYVOTERS.ORG&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only Prosecution Stops Torture, Abuse of Power, our Constitution &amp; Rule Of Law&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Every time I’m just about to give up</strong> one of the right wingers does something so disgusting, so absurd, so dangerous that one just has to hang in there for a little longer.</p>
<p><strong>Lets all work together to see some of the Bush-Cheney scum jailed for their lawbreaking.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Get out in the streets</strong> in front of your Congressional Representative’s office and raise hell. Start your own “prosecution” protest group.</p>
<p><strong>KEEP ASKING ALL POLITICIANS AT ALL PUBLIC EVENTS</strong></p>
<p>“WHY DO YOU SUPPORT TORTURE?”<br />
If they aren’t actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws, They DO Support Torture and a dual standard of Justice.</p>
<p><strong>SIGN THE PETITIONS</strong><br />
Demanding<br />
prosecution for all those leaders<br />
in Bush’s Administration that<br />
Conspired to Torture at <strong>ANGRYVOTERS.ORG</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG" rel="nofollow">http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG</a></p>
<p>Only Prosecution Stops Torture, Abuse of Power, our Constitution &amp; Rule Of Law</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/25/crazy-pete-hoekstra-obama-must-torture/#comment-191570</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, baby! The wheels have left terra firma on the proverbial Bus, and Petey is fully on-board!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That Op-Ed is delusional! It’s an emotional plea, boot-strapped on talking points, long discredited!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d say Crazy Pete is having Reality Adjustment issues - and he just hasn’t quite yet pulled his head out of…the sand! the sand! to see that his own Blind Loyalty was the very capital used by BushCo to underwrite and rationalize many, many twistings of the Criminal Facts - twistings like the blather in that Op-Ed!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, baby! The wheels have left terra firma on the proverbial Bus, and Petey is fully on-board!</p>
<p>That Op-Ed is delusional! It’s an emotional plea, boot-strapped on talking points, long discredited!</p>
<p>I’d say Crazy Pete is having Reality Adjustment issues &#8211; and he just hasn’t quite yet pulled his head out of…the sand! the sand! to see that his own Blind Loyalty was the very capital used by BushCo to underwrite and rationalize many, many twistings of the Criminal Facts &#8211; twistings like the blather in that Op-Ed!</p>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/25/crazy-pete-hoekstra-obama-must-torture/#comment-191561</link>
		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe they had to recuse themselves from the investigation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/25/crazy-pete-hoekstra-obama-must-torture/#comment-191560</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And they’re probably right. *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they’re probably right. *g*</p>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/25/crazy-pete-hoekstra-obama-must-torture/#comment-191559</link>
		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gee, I guess the Republicans just figured out that DiFi’s investigation is some sort of cynical political ploy to waterboard the GOP in the next election.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I guess the Republicans just figured out that DiFi’s investigation is some sort of cynical political ploy to waterboard the GOP in the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve been reviewing that video a lot today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are two kevlar jacketed dudes, with helmets, one with a rifle at ready, who were watching over it all as it came down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Two Fatigues Guys were on scene, and HAD the guy in hand, as the car rolls up, so they didn’t jump OUT of the car. They were already there. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The guy they took, it appears he was targeted somehow. Why? Did he say the wrong thing? Threaten the two dudes with kevlar and helmets? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where DID the two fatigues guys COME from, if not from the car that rolled up? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It will be interesting to see how this all comes down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone who thinks it was staged street theatre (well, maybe by the cops/authorities) ain’t paying attention.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And frankly, after using teargas, smoke and flash grenades, and the Sonic Cannon on the crowd (many Pitt U Students who LIVE in the area) I just see no reason for the authorities to STAGE such an act. They get NOTHING from it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if you watch the vid, as the car rolls off, there’s a guy with a red bandana over his face, who holds his hands up, because them two kevlared fella’s, are LOOKING HARD at him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This was real shit. Why, I don’t know. As was said elsewhere, I sure hope the blonde dude the fatigues grabbed had friends there and will report him missing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cuz otherwise, that dude is gone. Disappeared, right off our streets, with video going viral to prove it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been reviewing that video a lot today.</p>
<p>There are two kevlar jacketed dudes, with helmets, one with a rifle at ready, who were watching over it all as it came down.</p>
<p>The Two Fatigues Guys were on scene, and HAD the guy in hand, as the car rolls up, so they didn’t jump OUT of the car. They were already there. </p>
<p>The guy they took, it appears he was targeted somehow. Why? Did he say the wrong thing? Threaten the two dudes with kevlar and helmets? </p>
<p>Where DID the two fatigues guys COME from, if not from the car that rolled up? </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how this all comes down.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks it was staged street theatre (well, maybe by the cops/authorities) ain’t paying attention.</p>
<p>And frankly, after using teargas, smoke and flash grenades, and the Sonic Cannon on the crowd (many Pitt U Students who LIVE in the area) I just see no reason for the authorities to STAGE such an act. They get NOTHING from it.</p>
<p>And if you watch the vid, as the car rolls off, there’s a guy with a red bandana over his face, who holds his hands up, because them two kevlared fella’s, are LOOKING HARD at him. </p>
<p>This was real shit. Why, I don’t know. As was said elsewhere, I sure hope the blonde dude the fatigues grabbed had friends there and will report him missing. </p>
<p>Cuz otherwise, that dude is gone. Disappeared, right off our streets, with video going viral to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Got the DVR recording it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the DVR recording it.</p>
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