Comments on: JPRA’s Advice Has Gone Missing http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: perris http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191208 perris Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:59:45 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191208 <blockquote><p>And it’s all ‘cuz they were too sensitive to copy before they sent them <strike>hither</strike> hitler and yon.</p> </blockquote> <p>got that fixed I did</p>

And it’s all ‘cuz they were too sensitive to copy before they sent them hither hitler and yon.

got that fixed I did

]]> By: timbo http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191176 timbo Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:16:25 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191176 <p>Reminds one of the mysterious disappearing emails from WH, eh? And how the Republican party lost all those emails that were illegally not archived on their servers? Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that no one wanted to have their fingerprints on a lot of information…to avoid various criminal inquiries.</p> Reminds one of the mysterious disappearing emails from WH, eh? And how the Republican party lost all those emails that were illegally not archived on their servers? Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that no one wanted to have their fingerprints on a lot of information…to avoid various criminal inquiries.

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191163 Leen Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191163 <p>Will follow your lead. Will call tomorrow</p> Will follow your lead. Will call tomorrow

]]> By: Jeff Kaye http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191161 Jeff Kaye Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:43:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191161 <p>Hmm… Bad record keeping, files missing… where have I heard that before? Oh yes, remember all those missing or incomplete case files at Guantanamo? Or how they couldn’t find Hamdan’s 2002 Gitmo records? Or, to pick on another agency, how the FBI destroyed records it had on Walter Cronkite?</p> <p>This is a government that is out of control. It kills a hundred thousand or more in a trumpted up war/invasion in Iraq, and turns two million people into refugees. It tortures numberless individuals. It labels anyone who defies its rule a “terrorist”, yet it’s okay to have “collateral damage” killing who knows how many civilians, blown up because the U.S. was trying to strategically assassinate individuals by remote control missile.</p> <p>Anyone who is surprised by cover-up, dissembling, lies, and stonewalling by this government hasn’t been paying any attention to what has been going on. (And I don’t mean you, earlofhuntingdon, by any means… just a general comment.)</p> Hmm… Bad record keeping, files missing… where have I heard that before? Oh yes, remember all those missing or incomplete case files at Guantanamo? Or how they couldn’t find Hamdan’s 2002 Gitmo records? Or, to pick on another agency, how the FBI destroyed records it had on Walter Cronkite?

This is a government that is out of control. It kills a hundred thousand or more in a trumpted up war/invasion in Iraq, and turns two million people into refugees. It tortures numberless individuals. It labels anyone who defies its rule a “terrorist”, yet it’s okay to have “collateral damage” killing who knows how many civilians, blown up because the U.S. was trying to strategically assassinate individuals by remote control missile.

Anyone who is surprised by cover-up, dissembling, lies, and stonewalling by this government hasn’t been paying any attention to what has been going on. (And I don’t mean you, earlofhuntingdon, by any means… just a general comment.)

]]> By: bobschacht http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191114 bobschacht Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:34:43 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191114 <p>Thank you, Mary, and Peterr’s follow-up @ #31, and Mary’s follow-up @ 35, for your insightful commentaries, explaining the significance of these matters.</p> <p>Mary, I second your motion @ 35 for</p> <blockquote><p>…the real investigative referral that the Judiciary committees need to demand independent counsel for, and that they need to get firm regs on or get new statutes allowing etc. is to investigate DOJ and the Executive branch’s compliance with duties to inform Congress and the courts and where applicable, citizens vis a vis litigation and FOIA and similar requests - duties where we already have a huge list of violations and where there is such a pattern that has emerged that you can’t ignore it. It’s the only approach that gives a broad enough mandate to cover all the bases with the criminal activities operating out of DOJ and the Exec branch IMO.</p></blockquote> <p>Thank God for the legal team at ACLU, which is doing what many others should also be clamoring for. I need to send more shekels their way…</p> <p>Bob in AZ</p> Thank you, Mary, and Peterr’s follow-up @ #31, and Mary’s follow-up @ 35, for your insightful commentaries, explaining the significance of these matters.

Mary, I second your motion @ 35 for

…the real investigative referral that the Judiciary committees need to demand independent counsel for, and that they need to get firm regs on or get new statutes allowing etc. is to investigate DOJ and the Executive branch’s compliance with duties to inform Congress and the courts and where applicable, citizens vis a vis litigation and FOIA and similar requests – duties where we already have a huge list of violations and where there is such a pattern that has emerged that you can’t ignore it. It’s the only approach that gives a broad enough mandate to cover all the bases with the criminal activities operating out of DOJ and the Exec branch IMO.

Thank God for the legal team at ACLU, which is doing what many others should also be clamoring for. I need to send more shekels their way…

Bob in AZ

]]> By: fatster http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191096 fatster Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:25:14 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191096 <p>Good on you! And, as klynn said, “Great suggestion.”</p> <p>Many thnx.</p> Good on you! And, as klynn said, “Great suggestion.”

Many thnx.

]]> By: klynn http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191089 klynn Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:38:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191089 <p>Great suggestion. Thanks for making those calls and reporting here.</p> Great suggestion. Thanks for making those calls and reporting here.

]]> By: JimWhite http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191078 JimWhite Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:14:07 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191078 <p>Both Senator Durbin’s office and Senator Whitehouse’s offices seemed interested in my description of the problem of the missing documents from the OLC SCIF and how this could be leveraged into a new effort to get Dawn Johnsen confirmed and to start an Intelligence Committee investigation into the missing documents. It probably wouldn’t hurt for them to get a few more calls on this issue.</p> Both Senator Durbin’s office and Senator Whitehouse’s offices seemed interested in my description of the problem of the missing documents from the OLC SCIF and how this could be leveraged into a new effort to get Dawn Johnsen confirmed and to start an Intelligence Committee investigation into the missing documents. It probably wouldn’t hurt for them to get a few more calls on this issue.

]]> By: skdadl http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191071 skdadl Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:05:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191071 <blockquote><p>Oh, and documents that were supposedly so sensitive that you couldn’t make a copy set have been trotted around from offices to offices without receipts and without tracking sheets. Oh, and some seem to have never made it back. And oh yeah - there also seem to be way over 150 documents that no one bothered to mention to the court in this ACLU proceeding (and you have to wonder about all the other proceedings)</p></blockquote> <p>That was Mary @ 44, btw.</p> <p>I’m gobsmacked, by the history itself and then by the reconstruction of the history that EW and her irregulars have done here. </p> <p>Pull back the curtain on our elites, and what you find is incompetence or duplicity doing a cover-up for sheer brutality. Again and again, that is the bottom line.</p>

Oh, and documents that were supposedly so sensitive that you couldn’t make a copy set have been trotted around from offices to offices without receipts and without tracking sheets. Oh, and some seem to have never made it back. And oh yeah – there also seem to be way over 150 documents that no one bothered to mention to the court in this ACLU proceeding (and you have to wonder about all the other proceedings)

That was Mary @ 44, btw.

I’m gobsmacked, by the history itself and then by the reconstruction of the history that EW and her irregulars have done here.

Pull back the curtain on our elites, and what you find is incompetence or duplicity doing a cover-up for sheer brutality. Again and again, that is the bottom line.

]]> By: klynn http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191070 klynn Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:23:31 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/22/jpras-advice-has-gone-missing/#comment-191070 <p>Would appreciate hearing Goldsmith go under questioning in a courtroom.</p> Would appreciate hearing Goldsmith go under questioning in a courtroom.

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