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		<title>By: ScoutFinch</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/16/maxtax-working-thread/#comment-190050</link>
		<dc:creator>ScoutFinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I read recently that Mexico is in the middle stages of establishing their own NHS.  Maybe we can all go down there for care - it would be cheaper, I’m sure!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did inform my Senator of this fact and how very tragic it would be for America to be surrounded on all sides by countries that actually care about their people while the wingnuts dither in WA.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read recently that Mexico is in the middle stages of establishing their own NHS.  Maybe we can all go down there for care &#8211; it would be cheaper, I’m sure!</p>
<p>I did inform my Senator of this fact and how very tragic it would be for America to be surrounded on all sides by countries that actually care about their people while the wingnuts dither in WA.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/16/maxtax-working-thread/#comment-190012</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s what Bush said he was looking from Scooter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s what Bush said he was looking from Scooter.</p>
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		<title>By: TarheelDem</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/16/maxtax-working-thread/#comment-189950</link>
		<dc:creator>TarheelDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Secretary would be required to estimate, on an average actuarial basis, the basic per enrollee, per month cost of including coverage of abortions beyond those permitted by the most recent appropriation for the Department of Health and Human Services under a basic plan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is this one of the Republican parts so that they can scream about the plan paying for abortions?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Secretary would be required to estimate, on an average actuarial basis, the basic per enrollee, per month cost of including coverage of abortions beyond those permitted by the most recent appropriation for the Department of Health and Human Services under a basic plan.</p>
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<p>Is this one of the Republican parts so that they can scream about the plan paying for abortions?</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marcy- Great Job…but I’m beginning to wonder if the illegal immigrants aren’t getting the better deal here by not being covered at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcy- Great Job…but I’m beginning to wonder if the illegal immigrants aren’t getting the better deal here by not being covered at all.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/16/maxtax-working-thread/#comment-189938</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyone who says that the national “polity” is too important for Bush to be personally prosecuted for torture is a concern troll.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that would be who? Obama? I don’t see it in what bobash wrote.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in AZ&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone who says that the national “polity” is too important for Bush to be personally prosecuted for torture is a concern troll.</p>
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<p>And that would be who? Obama? I don’t see it in what bobash wrote.</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: TheraP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheraP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Between social security deductions and the 13% for medical insurance, that’s over 20% going to the govt BEFORE income tax is deducted!  And if the poor soul happens to be self-employed (and not pulling in a whole lot), the hit is 28%!  (15% for Social Security and 13% for medical)  How nice! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The injustice here is beyond belief!  Especially if you have any medical bills, which result in deductibles and co-pays.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between social security deductions and the 13% for medical insurance, that’s over 20% going to the govt BEFORE income tax is deducted!  And if the poor soul happens to be self-employed (and not pulling in a whole lot), the hit is 28%!  (15% for Social Security and 13% for medical)  How nice! </p>
<p>The injustice here is beyond belief!  Especially if you have any medical bills, which result in deductibles and co-pays.</p>
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		<title>By: bobash</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/16/maxtax-working-thread/#comment-189934</link>
		<dc:creator>bobash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you and disagree with Sullivan’s position on prosecutions, which is admittedly central to his letter.  But the rest of his plea to Bush is pretty good summary language, fodder for opening arguments from the prosecution I would think.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only acceptable solution for those who bow to national polity (still?–after this summer?) is a presidential pardon, to be issued only after an admission of guilt and enough media exposure from the trials for all reasonable Americans to know just how criminal these perps were.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bobash (hoping you’re right about the hereafter)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you and disagree with Sullivan’s position on prosecutions, which is admittedly central to his letter.  But the rest of his plea to Bush is pretty good summary language, fodder for opening arguments from the prosecution I would think.</p>
<p>The only acceptable solution for those who bow to national polity (still?–after this summer?) is a presidential pardon, to be issued only after an admission of guilt and enough media exposure from the trials for all reasonable Americans to know just how criminal these perps were.</p>
<p>bobash (hoping you’re right about the hereafter)</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Expect that payroll deduction clause to be in the next No Credit Card Left Behind bankruptcy reform legislation.  Heaven knows they’ll need it to stave off bankruptcies themselves, having sold so much credit to the destitute and have depleted their meager resources with planned ”penalty” fees and interest rates that would make Al Capone blush.  So much for wanting to keep Big Brother out of our homes and pocketbooks, eh?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As with Social Security and income taxes, mandated payroll deductions should be restricted to those funds that go directly to the government, to fund government administered programs.  As you point out, allowing them to be redirected to private enterprises would be going for the nuclear option and the start of a financial war to be the first to grab the increasingly limited resources of increasingly more desperate middle class payers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the Dems had a spine, they would kick Baucus out of the party.  Instead, he’s seen as carrying Blue Dog ’Bama’s water on this bill.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expect that payroll deduction clause to be in the next No Credit Card Left Behind bankruptcy reform legislation.  Heaven knows they’ll need it to stave off bankruptcies themselves, having sold so much credit to the destitute and have depleted their meager resources with planned ”penalty” fees and interest rates that would make Al Capone blush.  So much for wanting to keep Big Brother out of our homes and pocketbooks, eh?</p>
<p>As with Social Security and income taxes, mandated payroll deductions should be restricted to those funds that go directly to the government, to fund government administered programs.  As you point out, allowing them to be redirected to private enterprises would be going for the nuclear option and the start of a financial war to be the first to grab the increasingly limited resources of increasingly more desperate middle class payers.</p>
<p>If the Dems had a spine, they would kick Baucus out of the party.  Instead, he’s seen as carrying Blue Dog ’Bama’s water on this bill.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The GOP position on not insuring aliens is typically self-destructive.  Like all of us, they are still prone to life-threatening accident, they still “walk among us” capable of being afflicted with communicable disease, they still provide the agricultural, construction, and yard care workers, the cleaners, landscapers, dry wallers and home care workers upon which a considerable portion of our economy depends.  Even the Germans treated their Turks better.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Undocumented workers live and drive more safely than average, to avoid being seen, yet work at filthier, more dangerous jobs.  They are a boon to the public economy in many ways, but one achieved by outsourcing the risks onto them.  I thought the GOP’s beloved Chicago School was all about properly internalizing the costs of one’s behavior, not externalizing it, so that actors can make correct economic choices?  Never mind.  I forgot that inconsistency and hypocrisy to them are features, not a flaws.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Insuring undocumented workers would be smart public health policy and smart economics, despite the short-term cost.  That’s too much to ask of Republicans.  It would be an admission that it is often the wealthy who take advantage of their undocumented status, an advantage that would go away if they admitted they were here.  It’s all rather like a script from the X-Files, isn’t it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP position on not insuring aliens is typically self-destructive.  Like all of us, they are still prone to life-threatening accident, they still “walk among us” capable of being afflicted with communicable disease, they still provide the agricultural, construction, and yard care workers, the cleaners, landscapers, dry wallers and home care workers upon which a considerable portion of our economy depends.  Even the Germans treated their Turks better.  </p>
<p>Undocumented workers live and drive more safely than average, to avoid being seen, yet work at filthier, more dangerous jobs.  They are a boon to the public economy in many ways, but one achieved by outsourcing the risks onto them.  I thought the GOP’s beloved Chicago School was all about properly internalizing the costs of one’s behavior, not externalizing it, so that actors can make correct economic choices?  Never mind.  I forgot that inconsistency and hypocrisy to them are features, not a flaws.</p>
<p>Insuring undocumented workers would be smart public health policy and smart economics, despite the short-term cost.  That’s too much to ask of Republicans.  It would be an admission that it is often the wealthy who take advantage of their undocumented status, an advantage that would go away if they admitted they were here.  It’s all rather like a script from the X-Files, isn’t it?</p>
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		<title>By: BoxTurtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoxTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone who says that the national “polity” is too important for Bush to be personally prosecuted for torture is a concern troll. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prosecutions should go where the evidence leads. An apology from Bush and an acceptance of responsability should be considered at sentancing, it is NOT a reason to “move on”. If the person who killed a small child were to accept responsability and apologize, we’d still prosecute, right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boxturtle (Bush will one day answer to God. Bush won’t like it)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who says that the national “polity” is too important for Bush to be personally prosecuted for torture is a concern troll. </p>
<p>Prosecutions should go where the evidence leads. An apology from Bush and an acceptance of responsability should be considered at sentancing, it is NOT a reason to “move on”. If the person who killed a small child were to accept responsability and apologize, we’d still prosecute, right?</p>
<p>Boxturtle (Bush will one day answer to God. Bush won’t like it)</p>
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