This is just part of a sickening pattern. We all know how Cheney and his minions exposed clandestine CIA operative Valerie Plame just to smear her husband for revealing their dishonest use of the discredited Niger yellowcake story.

This is exactly right: Cheney’s goal was not to “keep us safe”; but rather to seize control of the intelligence apparatus. CIA professionals whose fact-based work conflicted with Cheney’s militaristic agenda were enemies, and were targetted and eliminated accodingly — and Porter Goss and Dusty Foggo et. al. moved in to make the CIA just one more house organ for the repub part; just like Goodling and Gonzalez were doing at DOJ.

The more I reflect on it, this seems to be near the heart of the torture program: the real issue wasn’t the effectiveness (or lack of it) of torture as an intelligence-gathering technique. No – don’t you think it’s fairer to say that complicity in torture represented the loyalty-test for “loyal Bushies” in the CIA

That’s the same reason the Bushies forced arabists and experts out of the Iraq war planning group: they didn’t want facts, they wanted loyalty. Loyalty to persue their schemes.

The one little problem, of course, is that Cheney et. al. were so out of touch with reality that so many their schemes have collapsed.

But make no mistake – this has nothing to do with national security or catching terrorists. These are the guys who were hob-nobbing with “Bandar Bush” within days of 9/11, and have fought tooth and nail to hide Saudi complicity in the attack.

As for Hayman’s “Strange”, I’m not sure what you mean. If you mean his boss, I don’t know if that was the Met’s top cop, the Commissioner or someone else. What’s interesting is that Hayman is chatting about sensitive prior events in a very public forum, which means his former teammates have no objection to twisting the American lion’s tale after their victory in court. They ought to celebrate a law enforcement victory, despite the odds and despite unexpectedly being tripped up one more time by an American administration that measured brains and restraint using the same thimble.

And, like the bard said, “I’ll stand over your grave ’til I’m sure you are dead.”

Here is what I was thinking had trademark Cheney’s elements to it…am I way off?

http://www.gregpalast.com/khan…..d-in-2001/

Khan Job: Bush Spiked Probe of Pakistan’s Dr. Strangelove,
Greg Palast for the BBC, reported in 2001

On November 7, 2001, BBC Television’s Newsnight and the Guardian of London reported that the Bush administration thwarted investigations of Dr. A.Q. Khan, known as the “father” of Pakistan’s atomic bomb. This week, Khan confessed to selling atomic secrets to Libya, North Korea, and Iran.

The Bush Administration has expressed shock at disclosures that Pakistan, our ally in the war on terror, has been running a nuclear secrets bazaar. In fact, according to the British news teams’ sources within US intelligence agencies, shortly after President Bush’s inauguration, his National Security Agency (NSA) effectively stymied the probe of Khan Research Laboratories, the Pakistani agency in charge of the bomb project. CIA and other agents told BBC they could not investigate the spread of ‘Islamic Bombs’ through Pakistan because funding appeared to originate in Saudi Arabia.
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The “Back-Off” Directive and the Islamic Bomb

… A top-level CIA operative who spoke with us [at BBC Television] on condition of strictest anonymity said that, after Bush took office, “There was a major policy shift” at the National Security Agency. Investigators were ordered to “back off ” from any inquiries into Saudi Arabian financing of terror networks, especially if they touched on Saudi royals and their retainers. That put the Bin Ladens, a family worth a reported $12 billion and a virtual arm of the Saudi royal household, off limits for investigation. Osama was the exception; he remained a wanted man, but agents could not look too closely at how he filled his piggy bank. The key rule of any investigation, “follow the money,” was now violated, and investigations-at least before September 11-began to die.

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Terrorism as a technique knows no geographical bounds, hence Bush’s claims that the war on a violent technique was global. It’s not enough for them to say few other terrorist incidents happened here, if they shot up in frequency and lethality elsewhere. If those induced political, economic and social consequences here, they achieved at least some of their aims.

Bush and Cheney’s claim to have kept us safe or safer is highly questionable. Their greatest achievement was in buying the ref, the MSM, and defining down “success” to mean whatever it is they did or failed to do. Pity about those uncooperative bloggers though; they just won’t get with the program.

It is less difficult to see the different Coup’s efforts and then adding into a World Wide Coup. Be aware that there are so many poeple involved in this Coup effort and many don’t have a complete idea of what it happening that it will boggle your mind. However the Government leaders know well and we’re seeing many questionable and suspicious situations surface like popcorn now. Eventually some people who have become passionate with what has been happening will see the reality of this Coup attempt. The more who see the Coup attempt the more who will start to work towards ending it. I expect it to grow quickly once the reality of this starts to take hold.

This is OUR Government and we need to put an end to this Coup Attempt once and for all. Once it’s over Everyone who are involved in this Coup need to be broght to justice. The 1933 Coup attempt let too many escape with only a slap on their hands, I heard all about it while married. This Coup attempt needs to be as Thorough As Possible with bringing Justice back to where it needs to be and restoring our Democracy.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

The fact is we are in a White House Coup run by many of the same groups who were in the 1933 Coup called “The Business Plot” of 1933. There are many differences however this Coup has been in the planning stages for decades. Since knowing previous faliures they want to succeed this time. The 1933 Coup failed when an attempt was made to enlist someone from the Military for help, but this person blew the whistle and down came the Coup. One of the main problems back then was the investigations didn’t clean out all who were involved and some of the real problems just got their hands slapped. They know this and it was talked often within the family I was in!

However this White House Coup isn’t limited to just the White House, its actual focus is a World Wide Coup often called NWO (New World Order). Plus Bush’s Administration isn’t the only Administration involved, this goes way back and involves many other Presidential Administrations. Again, how I know this is because I spent more than 26 years in a family who are directly involved.

Anyone who is starting to connect the dots will likely see so many dots to connect that it will be mind boggling. There are many people involved as will be explained as more of this is cleaned up. I say cleaned up because from what I know, the news shows that something major is happening in a positive way. The real culprits in this Coup are the big Banks who have been behind many problems for eons and along with them are so many Corporations that I can’t count that high.

I’m confident that we’ll reach a point where something huge is going to happen that will surprise all of us for the good.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL