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	<title>Comments on: Bad Max Provides More Details</title>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187973</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So, let me be absolutely clear:&lt;br /&gt;
 - Good Max is what that wonderful fellow Max Baucus proposed in November.&lt;br /&gt;
And&lt;br /&gt;
  - Bad Max is what that son of a bitch is proposing today.&lt;br /&gt;
Just askin’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, let me be absolutely clear:<br />
 &#8211; Good Max is what that wonderful fellow Max Baucus proposed in November.<br />
And<br />
  &#8211; Bad Max is what that son of a bitch is proposing today.<br />
Just askin’.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187961</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For those who have never seen it: &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1396/1047153654_4a32212f93.jpg?v=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is more what I was thinking of.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who have never seen it: <a href="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1396/1047153654_4a32212f93.jpg?v=0" rel="nofollow">this</a> is more what I was thinking of.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was 14 years old, and it was one of my first dates. The movie theater was 30 miles away and neither my date nor I could drive. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And my mom and I had both read Benchley’s book the previous month (great beach read!).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So mom came along. My date didn’t mind anyhow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was 14 years old, and it was one of my first dates. The movie theater was 30 miles away and neither my date nor I could drive. </p>
<p>And my mom and I had both read Benchley’s book the previous month (great beach read!).</p>
<p>So mom came along. My date didn’t mind anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187956</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; think about sharks, but decide he never goes close to the ocean. (The shark population in Montana is all two-legged, anyway.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Saw ‘Jaws’ twice, actually. Skipped the sequels; they couldn’t have beaten the first one.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I <em>did</em> think about sharks, but decide he never goes close to the ocean. (The shark population in Montana is all two-legged, anyway.)</p>
<p>(Saw ‘Jaws’ twice, actually. Skipped the sequels; they couldn’t have beaten the first one.)</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187951</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ugh.  No movie dates with you then!!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mother???&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  No movie dates with you then!!  </p>
<p>Mother???</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187947</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Which means &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=f5d922d97e345aa1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jaws&lt;/a&gt;, circa 1975, would still be in your frame of reference. *laughing*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First movie I ever saw with a date. He was so nervous and so scared, he chewed off my fingernails while holding my hand and watching the movie.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if it was because my mother was with us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which means <a href="http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=f5d922d97e345aa1" rel="nofollow">Jaws</a>, circa 1975, would still be in your frame of reference. *laughing*</p>
<p>First movie I ever saw with a date. He was so nervous and so scared, he chewed off my fingernails while holding my hand and watching the movie.</p>
<p>I don’t know if it was because my mother was with us.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187944</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I really don’t do pop culture. I’ve been out of it for, oh, twenty or thirty years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I really don’t do pop culture. I’ve been out of it for, oh, twenty or thirty years.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187939</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Think you and PJ missed my excessively subtle &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pop culture reference&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think you and PJ missed my excessively subtle <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8" rel="nofollow">pop culture reference</a>.</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187930</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reminding me that someone in the public eye needs to remind PBO &lt;em&gt;right now&lt;/em&gt; that he promised that the healthcare reform negotiations would be be broadcast live on CNN.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reminding me that someone in the public eye needs to remind PBO <em>right now</em> that he promised that the healthcare reform negotiations would be be broadcast live on CNN.</p>
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		<title>By: cregan</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/#comment-187849</link>
		<dc:creator>cregan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is why this entire thing needs to be scrapped, and we need to begin again with real open hearings so that the public is informed all along the way and no back room deals are done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem here is “Who knows what the heck is in the 1000 pages?” Yes, there are the bullet points that sound good, but who knows if there are many other things, the result of back room deals like with pharma, that we don’t like that are stuck in there too?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to scrap it, bring in the light of day, and begin again and design something that really works and includes all angles of reform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe single payer, maybe tort reform, maybe other reform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just junk it and begin again and do it right this time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why this entire thing needs to be scrapped, and we need to begin again with real open hearings so that the public is informed all along the way and no back room deals are done.</p>
<p>The problem here is “Who knows what the heck is in the 1000 pages?” Yes, there are the bullet points that sound good, but who knows if there are many other things, the result of back room deals like with pharma, that we don’t like that are stuck in there too?</p>
<p>We need to scrap it, bring in the light of day, and begin again and design something that really works and includes all angles of reform.</p>
<p>Maybe single payer, maybe tort reform, maybe other reform.</p>
<p>Just junk it and begin again and do it right this time.</p>
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