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	<title>Comments on: A Decent Health Care Reform Plan&#8211;from Max Baucus</title>
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		<title>By: alabama</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187171</link>
		<dc:creator>alabama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He wasn’t setting a good example, and there’s always lots of room for improvement….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wasn’t setting a good example, and there’s always lots of room for improvement….</p>
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		<title>By: skylights</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187157</link>
		<dc:creator>skylights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This shows how badly progressives have bungled this fight. What once was a moderate compromise is now viewed as some leftist cause. Every progressive in America should have demanded single payer from day one. This would have pulled the entire national discussion to the left, and the public option would have passed as the moderate compromise-– as it obviously is, if Max Baucus once supported it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It didn’t help that Obama and Democratic leaders blew off single-payer as if the idea didn’t even exist. But make no mistake. By switching our support from single payer to the public option, we turned the public option into some leftist idea in the minds of many, and moderates and Blue Dogs had nowhere to go but to the right, away from the formerly moderate compromise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Learn to make no compromises, progressives! We’re the only force capable of moving the &lt;a&gt;Overton window&lt;/a&gt; to the left!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows how badly progressives have bungled this fight. What once was a moderate compromise is now viewed as some leftist cause. Every progressive in America should have demanded single payer from day one. This would have pulled the entire national discussion to the left, and the public option would have passed as the moderate compromise-– as it obviously is, if Max Baucus once supported it.</p>
<p>It didn’t help that Obama and Democratic leaders blew off single-payer as if the idea didn’t even exist. But make no mistake. By switching our support from single payer to the public option, we turned the public option into some leftist idea in the minds of many, and moderates and Blue Dogs had nowhere to go but to the right, away from the formerly moderate compromise.</p>
<p>Learn to make no compromises, progressives! We’re the only force capable of moving the <a>Overton window</a> to the left!</p>
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		<title>By: joanneleon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187149</link>
		<dc:creator>joanneleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Weird.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That must have been left over from his reelection campaign a couple weeks earlier — either that or the transition team indoctrinization program hadn’t gotten to him yet ;/&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird.</p>
<p>That must have been left over from his reelection campaign a couple weeks earlier — either that or the transition team indoctrinization program hadn’t gotten to him yet ;/</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187127</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enzi pops up like a jack-in-the box clown and says– ‘Hey! Don’t count me out. I still wants to negotiate.’ This after bragging last week at a town hall in Wyoming that he was responsible for the delay in a getting a bill out of his committee.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enzi had nothing to do with the timetable. It’s a large important reform and it’s important for the public to have their say, so Congress can learn their concerns and inform them and get a sense of how the public feels about parts of the reform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We know the public supports it and we know some of them are ill-informed despite lots of explanations and we know the loony-tunes Right will say and do absolutely anything to oppose Obama.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The reform should go through, though it may require the Dems pass the public option part all by themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it amazing how easy it is for senators to support reform until it actually gets going and they realize they’re going to have to vote on it? Heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Enzi pops up like a jack-in-the box clown and says– ‘Hey! Don’t count me out. I still wants to negotiate.’ This after bragging last week at a town hall in Wyoming that he was responsible for the delay in a getting a bill out of his committee.</p>
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<p>Enzi had nothing to do with the timetable. It’s a large important reform and it’s important for the public to have their say, so Congress can learn their concerns and inform them and get a sense of how the public feels about parts of the reform.</p>
<p>We know the public supports it and we know some of them are ill-informed despite lots of explanations and we know the loony-tunes Right will say and do absolutely anything to oppose Obama.</p>
<p>The reform should go through, though it may require the Dems pass the public option part all by themselves.</p>
<p>Isn’t it amazing how easy it is for senators to support reform until it actually gets going and they realize they’re going to have to vote on it? Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187052</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, well, I do not know why progressives to not advocate that Medicare buy-in for 55 and olders. …&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that would be a good place to start, and then lower the age of eligibility every year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in AZ&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, well, I do not know why progressives to not advocate that Medicare buy-in for 55 and olders. …</p>
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<p>Yeah, that would be a good place to start, and then lower the age of eligibility every year.</p>
<p>Bob in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: DeanOR</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187050</link>
		<dc:creator>DeanOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;November, 2008?  Wasn’t there some election around then?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>November, 2008?  Wasn’t there some election around then?</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Baucus has done his own share of demonizing and trivializing. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKP05AyfRsI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s worth remembering how he uttered “We need more police” &lt;/a&gt;as if it were the cleverest witticism this side of Oscar Wilde, and how his allies and sycophants guffawed in assent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baucus has done his own share of demonizing and trivializing. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKP05AyfRsI" rel="nofollow">It’s worth remembering how he uttered “We need more police” </a>as if it were the cleverest witticism this side of Oscar Wilde, and how his allies and sycophants guffawed in assent.</p>
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		<title>By: alabama</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-187015</link>
		<dc:creator>alabama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If we don’t humanize, we have to demonize (or trivialize).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we don’t humanize, we have to demonize (or trivialize).</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/03/a-decent-health-care-reform-plan-from-max-baucus/#comment-186993</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wanted to  leave this as it states the obvious I mentioned above @36. It is at least a light in the darkness, and maybe some hope that what we on the left (me far far left -:)) are making a difference with our calls and actions.&lt;br /&gt;
Props to Jane Hamsher&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/why-health-insurance-refo_b_276202.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....76202.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to  leave this as it states the obvious I mentioned above @36. It is at least a light in the darkness, and maybe some hope that what we on the left (me far far left -:)) are making a difference with our calls and actions.<br />
Props to Jane Hamsher<br /><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/why-health-insurance-refo_b_276202.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&#8230;..76202.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: PeterHug</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterHug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Googles” are only available on the “Extended Intertubes” - neither journalists nor politicians have access to this feature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Googles” are only available on the “Extended Intertubes” &#8211; neither journalists nor politicians have access to this feature.</p>
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