Comments on: As Justice Stevens Winds Down, Will Obama Continue SCOTUS Trend To The Right? http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MartyDidier http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186972 MartyDidier Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:52:39 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186972 <p>Good question…. My opinion is it’s important to Stack The Deck, meaning that knowing the functions surrounding decision making it’s important to make sure all areas are stacked! This may seem simple in thought but realize that there is a <strong>White House Coup</strong> in place and it’s working from the <strong>Inside Out</strong> not from the <strong>Outside In</strong>.</p> <p>Marty Didier<br /> Northbrook, IL</p> Good question…. My opinion is it’s important to Stack The Deck, meaning that knowing the functions surrounding decision making it’s important to make sure all areas are stacked! This may seem simple in thought but realize that there is a White House Coup in place and it’s working from the Inside Out not from the Outside In.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

]]> By: MartyDidier http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186971 MartyDidier Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:48:03 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186971 <p>Good Question…<br /> Many of my earlier posts talk about links with Obam and the family I was in as setting up a huge Drug Distribution business in Florida. It’s this situation and many things the family said that signify his link with the Combine/Shadow Government. Plus others have researched and found other information supporting this link. Please accept my earlier post that talks about our two main Parties as really being one who <strong>DON’T WANT OUR CONSTITUTION.</strong> They goal is in supporting a White House Coup and please accept that I know this because I was in a family for more than 26 years who have been since the later 70’s directly involved in the Coup’s efforts.</p> <p>Marty Didier<br /> Northbrook, IL</p> Good Question…
Many of my earlier posts talk about links with Obam and the family I was in as setting up a huge Drug Distribution business in Florida. It’s this situation and many things the family said that signify his link with the Combine/Shadow Government. Plus others have researched and found other information supporting this link. Please accept my earlier post that talks about our two main Parties as really being one who DON’T WANT OUR CONSTITUTION. They goal is in supporting a White House Coup and please accept that I know this because I was in a family for more than 26 years who have been since the later 70’s directly involved in the Coup’s efforts.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

]]> By: MartyDidier http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186967 MartyDidier Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:41:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186967 <p>The Supreme Court would be expected in my opinion to go as far as needed to support decisions supporting the White House Coup. The Coup by design is to work from the inside out, hence all functions need to somehow fall in line with supporting the Coup’s goals.</p> <p>The Plame case to me is a good test to see how serious they are about needing a cover up in the Federal area. There appears to be a lot more coming so Plame isn’t the only one and no doubt they know it.</p> <p>Marty Didier<br /> Northbrook, IL</p> The Supreme Court would be expected in my opinion to go as far as needed to support decisions supporting the White House Coup. The Coup by design is to work from the inside out, hence all functions need to somehow fall in line with supporting the Coup’s goals.

The Plame case to me is a good test to see how serious they are about needing a cover up in the Federal area. There appears to be a lot more coming so Plame isn’t the only one and no doubt they know it.

Marty Didier
Northbrook, IL

]]> By: PJBurke http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186887 PJBurke Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:43:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186887 <blockquote><p>There’s nothing in the Constitution that requires a member of the SCOTUS be a lawyer. That means there’s about 180 million Americans whose qualifications ought to be reviewed before his.</p></blockquote> <p><strong>Noam Chomsky.</strong></p> <p>And let the exploding commence.</p> <p>(yeah… I know. I’m behind the rest of class on this one. Thanks for posting this bmaz… )</p>

There’s nothing in the Constitution that requires a member of the SCOTUS be a lawyer. That means there’s about 180 million Americans whose qualifications ought to be reviewed before his.

Noam Chomsky.

And let the exploding commence.

(yeah… I know. I’m behind the rest of class on this one. Thanks for posting this bmaz… )

]]> By: gaiilonfong http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186789 gaiilonfong Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:03:03 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186789 <p>Interesting advice. Mine to you…… type in “Lieberman black face” see what that did to the Lamont campaign.<br /> Any questions get back to me!</p> Interesting advice. Mine to you…… type in “Lieberman black face” see what that did to the Lamont campaign.
Any questions get back to me!

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186776 bmaz Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:50:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186776 <p>I made no position statement on it at all, it is just a fact from what I witness every day and have seen as a trend over the last couple of decades. I really do not think it is a bad thing to have the people being the ultimate arbiters of the law be actually trained and at least semi-experienced in the law.</p> I made no position statement on it at all, it is just a fact from what I witness every day and have seen as a trend over the last couple of decades. I really do not think it is a bad thing to have the people being the ultimate arbiters of the law be actually trained and at least semi-experienced in the law.

]]> By: tjallen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186775 tjallen Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:45:12 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186775 <p>Non-lawyers:<br /> I was going to say Peter Singer, til I found out he was Australian.</p> <p>What about Katha Pollitt? One of the wisest people we’ve got on the left.</p> <p>The court should be going after the great issues of the day. bmaz your point here is sad, and need not be true, and shows the dysfunction of the court, which you seem inclined to go along with:</p> <blockquote><p>litigation has gotten very complicated and much of what the Supreme Court has to unravel anymore is procedural and evidentiary based as opposed to grand principles. I honestly think a non-lawyer would have a rough go of it and, sadly, is probably a bad idea to install a non-lawyer on the court anymore.</p></blockquote> <p>Just shows the court has lost its way. Of course a group of 12 lawyers will see everything turning on evidentiary and procedural rules. If the court had 12 literary theorists, everything would turn on a different set of ideals, That’s why the Supreme Court ought to look more like us, and not a bunch of lawyers. Saying ordinary (educated, professional) Americans must be lawyers to be on the court makes it a priesthood.</p> Non-lawyers:
I was going to say Peter Singer, til I found out he was Australian.

What about Katha Pollitt? One of the wisest people we’ve got on the left.

The court should be going after the great issues of the day. bmaz your point here is sad, and need not be true, and shows the dysfunction of the court, which you seem inclined to go along with:

litigation has gotten very complicated and much of what the Supreme Court has to unravel anymore is procedural and evidentiary based as opposed to grand principles. I honestly think a non-lawyer would have a rough go of it and, sadly, is probably a bad idea to install a non-lawyer on the court anymore.

Just shows the court has lost its way. Of course a group of 12 lawyers will see everything turning on evidentiary and procedural rules. If the court had 12 literary theorists, everything would turn on a different set of ideals, That’s why the Supreme Court ought to look more like us, and not a bunch of lawyers. Saying ordinary (educated, professional) Americans must be lawyers to be on the court makes it a priesthood.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186769 bmaz Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:47:09 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186769 <p>Well, technically of course you are quite right. However, the Republican party Stevens from back when Stevens was appointed no longer exists. I believe today there would be almost universal acceptance, including by Stevens himself, that his ideals are, of the two parties, far more associated with the “liberal” Democrats.</p> Well, technically of course you are quite right. However, the Republican party Stevens from back when Stevens was appointed no longer exists. I believe today there would be almost universal acceptance, including by Stevens himself, that his ideals are, of the two parties, far more associated with the “liberal” Democrats.

]]> By: bzick http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186763 bzick Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:24:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186763 <p>Nitty picky note re: “holding out when you really want to retire is something justices do when the President is from the adverse party, not nearly so much as when he is of the party associated with the retiring justice.”</p> <p>Your wording was notably quite careful, but for the sake of clarity, Stevens was appointed by Gerald Ford. It may be true that Obama is, in Steven’s case, not “from the adverse party” and that Stevens is inaccurately considered by the ignorant to be associated with the Democrats. But he was appointed by a Republican.</p> Nitty picky note re: “holding out when you really want to retire is something justices do when the President is from the adverse party, not nearly so much as when he is of the party associated with the retiring justice.”

Your wording was notably quite careful, but for the sake of clarity, Stevens was appointed by Gerald Ford. It may be true that Obama is, in Steven’s case, not “from the adverse party” and that Stevens is inaccurately considered by the ignorant to be associated with the Democrats. But he was appointed by a Republican.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186749 bmaz Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:50:10 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/02/as-justice-stevens-winds-down-will-obama-continue-scotus-trend-to-the-right/#comment-186749 <p>Interesting. I have heard of Doggett, but would have never thought of him. Thanks for the suggestion, I agree from what I know and a quick search that he would be a very good candidate. The only negative is he is already 62 and the trend has been to try to get nominees in their mid 50s. Nice call.</p> Interesting. I have heard of Doggett, but would have never thought of him. Thanks for the suggestion, I agree from what I know and a quick search that he would be a very good candidate. The only negative is he is already 62 and the trend has been to try to get nominees in their mid 50s. Nice call.

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