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		<title>By: JohnnyTable70</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186513</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyTable70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;..which brings me back to last fall when the Witch of Wasilla was punked by a Canadian DJ pretending to be French President Sarkozy. If you listened carefully to the pranksters, any idiot could tell they were fake because they mentioned cheesy French singer Johnny Hallyday, who has been playing (it seems) since the days of Elvis and whom the French think is the musical equivalent of Jerry Lewis.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..which brings me back to last fall when the Witch of Wasilla was punked by a Canadian DJ pretending to be French President Sarkozy. If you listened carefully to the pranksters, any idiot could tell they were fake because they mentioned cheesy French singer Johnny Hallyday, who has been playing (it seems) since the days of Elvis and whom the French think is the musical equivalent of Jerry Lewis.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186494</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh…Well then, if only Gonzo’s peers would read emptywheel, then their memories would be aided by a clear view of the facts, in the context of the Legal issues involved, and a well-cited understanding of the relationships between the actors!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t understand it, bmaz, but with Gonzo’s reappearance, for some reason, when I hear about “Healthcare Reform,” I think about the “Hospital Visit.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gonzo was a one-man “Death Panel” for the Integrity of the Law, and Law Enforcement.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh…Well then, if only Gonzo’s peers would read emptywheel, then their memories would be aided by a clear view of the facts, in the context of the Legal issues involved, and a well-cited understanding of the relationships between the actors!</p>
<p>I don’t understand it, bmaz, but with Gonzo’s reappearance, for some reason, when I hear about “Healthcare Reform,” I think about the “Hospital Visit.”</p>
<p>Gonzo was a one-man “Death Panel” for the Integrity of the Law, and Law Enforcement.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186489</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gonzo cannot be tried by a jury of his peers, as his peers would not be able to recall the evidence adduced at trial and would then remember nothing when it came time to deliberate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzo cannot be tried by a jury of his peers, as his peers would not be able to recall the evidence adduced at trial and would then remember nothing when it came time to deliberate.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186481</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the Hospital Visit Episode ended the way we all think it did, then Gonzo shouldn’t get a deal of any kind, imvho.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rather, he should be held to account over the March 11th Re-Certification, where he ‘witnessed’ Bush elevating himself Above the Law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re talking about the Lawyer who guaranteed on a (secret) official document that Bush’s &lt;em&gt;word&lt;/em&gt; was The Law of the Land - and then Gonzo carried that document around in his &lt;em&gt;briefcase&lt;/em&gt;, for Years, so that No One Else could see it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That one document, imvho, makes a Mockery of every Memo that OLC ever ’served up’ for Bush by enshrining the ‘real’ power structure of BushCo for all to see - not a Democracy according to the Constitution, but instead a Secret Banana Republic Dictatorship, with the ‘UE’ sock-puppeting as the President of the US, surrounded by a battery of sycophant “Department of Justice” Lawyers, ready to cloak his every unlawful act in Ex-Post Facto ‘legal’ legitimacy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heinous, depraved, Monsterous things were done in Our name by Bush and Cheney - without US being told about it - and Gonzo was a key player in perpetrating the Fraud.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only deal Gonzo should get, imvho, is a fair and impartial trial by a jury of his peers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Hospital Visit Episode ended the way we all think it did, then Gonzo shouldn’t get a deal of any kind, imvho.</p>
<p>Rather, he should be held to account over the March 11th Re-Certification, where he ‘witnessed’ Bush elevating himself Above the Law.</p>
<p>We’re talking about the Lawyer who guaranteed on a (secret) official document that Bush’s <em>word</em> was The Law of the Land &#8211; and then Gonzo carried that document around in his <em>briefcase</em>, for Years, so that No One Else could see it.</p>
<p>That one document, imvho, makes a Mockery of every Memo that OLC ever ’served up’ for Bush by enshrining the ‘real’ power structure of BushCo for all to see &#8211; not a Democracy according to the Constitution, but instead a Secret Banana Republic Dictatorship, with the ‘UE’ sock-puppeting as the President of the US, surrounded by a battery of sycophant “Department of Justice” Lawyers, ready to cloak his every unlawful act in Ex-Post Facto ‘legal’ legitimacy.</p>
<p>Heinous, depraved, Monsterous things were done in Our name by Bush and Cheney &#8211; without US being told about it &#8211; and Gonzo was a key player in perpetrating the Fraud.</p>
<p>The only deal Gonzo should get, imvho, is a fair and impartial trial by a jury of his peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186446</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What do you expect when Georgie threw him under the bus and he can’t even find a job because he followed Bush/Cheney’s orders. So much for lifelong friendship&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect when Georgie threw him under the bus and he can’t even find a job because he followed Bush/Cheney’s orders. So much for lifelong friendship</p>
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		<title>By: rkilowatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkilowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;3 anomalies: GWB seemed to repudiate demonstrated, close working relations with 3 very loyal capos: AGAG, DCheney and ILibby. Same time frame?…related?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When GWB read DC’s “&lt;strike&gt;the Pres&lt;/strike&gt;” meatgrinder-note in a very public exposure, what might have been his characteristic reaction? Shock? Do ya think totally pissed? A metallic feeling of back-stabbed?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A lousey novelist could have the Pres telling AGAG to tell DC to tell IL to tell JudyNYT to push &lt;strike&gt;Flame&lt;/strike&gt; Plame. Then, petard-like, the Pres gets fingered by “&lt;strike&gt;the Pres&lt;/strike&gt;“. Hooboy! Just fantacizing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 anomalies: GWB seemed to repudiate demonstrated, close working relations with 3 very loyal capos: AGAG, DCheney and ILibby. Same time frame?…related?</p>
<p>When GWB read DC’s “<strike>the Pres</strike>” meatgrinder-note in a very public exposure, what might have been his characteristic reaction? Shock? Do ya think totally pissed? A metallic feeling of back-stabbed?</p>
<p>A lousey novelist could have the Pres telling AGAG to tell DC to tell IL to tell JudyNYT to push <strike>Flame</strike> Plame. Then, petard-like, the Pres gets fingered by “<strike>the Pres</strike>“. Hooboy! Just fantacizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186429</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aww, com’on - this is AGAG.  He has that steel trap memory - he’d know if … *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@35 - at least that fancy will come with its own soundtrack, “Dusty trails, to Yoo”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@36 - I don’t deny some good arguments can be made, but on torture (as opposed ot the USA firings) you have to go through so many to get to him, even if he was involved in communications/authorizations.  I think its his safest place which isn’t the same as safe place.  He did give Bush the war crimes spiel, but they could both “rely” on the Bybee “not a war crime if its done to an illegal enemy combatant” bit unless you take that down first.  Which means DOJ taking down OLC institutionally as well as being ready to go after the subsequents too - not just Yoo and Bybee, but Levin and Goldsmith and Bradbury and Ashcroft and likely DAGs like torture field tripper Thomspon and Comey and McNulty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OTOH, between the torture investigations (with OPR finding they should be reopened you have to wonder a bit) and misreps to numerous courts and destruction of evidence AND the USA firings, surely McNulty has more than one thing on his plate these days.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, com’on &#8211; this is AGAG.  He has that steel trap memory &#8211; he’d know if … *g*</p>
<p>@35 &#8211; at least that fancy will come with its own soundtrack, “Dusty trails, to Yoo”</p>
<p>@36 &#8211; I don’t deny some good arguments can be made, but on torture (as opposed ot the USA firings) you have to go through so many to get to him, even if he was involved in communications/authorizations.  I think its his safest place which isn’t the same as safe place.  He did give Bush the war crimes spiel, but they could both “rely” on the Bybee “not a war crime if its done to an illegal enemy combatant” bit unless you take that down first.  Which means DOJ taking down OLC institutionally as well as being ready to go after the subsequents too &#8211; not just Yoo and Bybee, but Levin and Goldsmith and Bradbury and Ashcroft and likely DAGs like torture field tripper Thomspon and Comey and McNulty.</p>
<p>OTOH, between the torture investigations (with OPR finding they should be reopened you have to wonder a bit) and misreps to numerous courts and destruction of evidence AND the USA firings, surely McNulty has more than one thing on his plate these days.</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really apropos of nothing &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, when we moved to Reno in the early 90’s, I got a part time job with a polling company, and one of the polls was something that had to do with some local issue in the DC or N Virginia area. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, I got my list of numbers to call and I’m going along calling specific voters in the household for whatever the issue was. Anyway I call this number and I’m looking at the name for the person to ask for, and some guy answers with a deep deep deep voice (James Earl Jones-like, not him though). He doesn’t say ‘hello’ - he doesn’t say ‘this is so and so, anything any normal person would say.’ He says something strange like they’d say in a spy movie or something, something like ‘the Aspens are turning yellow’ or ‘the moon is brightest on the darkest night’ - one of those odd phrases &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, I’m sitting there with my mouth open, looking at the phone (I think I probably looked like the old RCA dog) asked for the name on the list, and I can’t even remember what he said because it was it was the oddest, most unanticipated response I would have ever thought to expect. I think he said it was some type of business &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was the strangest phone conversation I’ve ever had&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really apropos of nothing </p>
<p>But, when we moved to Reno in the early 90’s, I got a part time job with a polling company, and one of the polls was something that had to do with some local issue in the DC or N Virginia area. </p>
<p>So, I got my list of numbers to call and I’m going along calling specific voters in the household for whatever the issue was. Anyway I call this number and I’m looking at the name for the person to ask for, and some guy answers with a deep deep deep voice (James Earl Jones-like, not him though). He doesn’t say ‘hello’ &#8211; he doesn’t say ‘this is so and so, anything any normal person would say.’ He says something strange like they’d say in a spy movie or something, something like ‘the Aspens are turning yellow’ or ‘the moon is brightest on the darkest night’ &#8211; one of those odd phrases </p>
<p>So, I’m sitting there with my mouth open, looking at the phone (I think I probably looked like the old RCA dog) asked for the name on the list, and I can’t even remember what he said because it was it was the oddest, most unanticipated response I would have ever thought to expect. I think he said it was some type of business </p>
<p>It was the strangest phone conversation I’ve ever had</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186419</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do you think he’s aiming to hide behind Cheney?  Things are not going well for old Dick “Dick” these days, so badly, in fact, that perhaps Gonzo has noticed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think he’s aiming to hide behind Cheney?  Things are not going well for old Dick “Dick” these days, so badly, in fact, that perhaps Gonzo has noticed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kinmo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/01/gonzales-choice/#comment-186416</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The shit is moving ever closer to the fan and he knows it.  I think he not only will try to cover his ass, he will do whatever possible to save it.  All of the underlings are going to start to sing for their lives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shit is moving ever closer to the fan and he knows it.  I think he not only will try to cover his ass, he will do whatever possible to save it.  All of the underlings are going to start to sing for their lives.</p>
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