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	<title>Comments on: Mark Ambinder Thinks Granny &#8220;Really&#8221; Is a Clunker</title>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179474</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/world/asia/06justice.html?_r=1&amp;ref=world&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let us try that link again&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/world/asia/06justice.html?_r=1&amp;ref=world" rel="nofollow">Let us try that link again</a></p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179473</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not to mention that Mary has obviously used her influence to get &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08…..;ref=world&lt;/a&gt;“&gt;this story written and front-paged in the dead tree edition. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(John Hughes dead!)(Early ’80s pop culture figures dying at alarming rate!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention that Mary has obviously used her influence to get <a href="" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08…..;ref=world</a>“&gt;this story written and front-paged in the dead tree edition. </p>
<p>(John Hughes dead!)(Early ’80s pop culture figures dying at alarming rate!)</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179471</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wanted to post original NYT article on possibility of  trials in Kenya by Jeffrey Gettleman as a subtle hint from that paper.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to post original NYT article on possibility of  trials in Kenya by Jeffrey Gettleman as a subtle hint from that paper.</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179469</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nazila Fathi spoke to someone who voted for Ahmadinejad a few days after the election when she could still be in the country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazila Fathi spoke to someone who voted for Ahmadinejad a few days after the election when she could still be in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179329</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Arrogance, American illusion and defense weapons&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrogance, American illusion and defense weapons</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179294</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stuff in the news this pm.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Cold Cash” &lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/william_jefferson_convicted_on_11_counts.php?ref=fpa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jefferson guilty&lt;/a&gt; on 11 of 16 charges.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC) has &lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/dem-congressmans-office-his-life-has-been-threatened-over-health-care-bill.php?ref=fpblg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;received a death threat&lt;/a&gt; over the health care bill and so has cancelled his town hall events for August.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/gop-forwards-angry-callers-to-democratic-national-committee/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RNC is getting overwhelmed&lt;/a&gt; “with angry calls over its practice of overrunning town hall meetings” on the health care bill, so overwhelmed that they are now redirecting those calls to the DNC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The O-Team has identified the “t&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/05/former-copyright-lobbyist-is-obamas/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;op candidate &lt;/a&gt;for a US Attorney position.”  He is a former “copyright and cyber-security lobbyist for companies like Microsoft and IBM. . .,”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff in the news this pm.</p>
<p>“Cold Cash” <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/william_jefferson_convicted_on_11_counts.php?ref=fpa" rel="nofollow">Jefferson guilty</a> on 11 of 16 charges.</p>
<p>Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC) has <a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/dem-congressmans-office-his-life-has-been-threatened-over-health-care-bill.php?ref=fpblg" rel="nofollow">received a death threat</a> over the health care bill and so has cancelled his town hall events for August.  </p>
<p>The <a href="http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/08/gop-forwards-angry-callers-to-democratic-national-committee/" rel="nofollow">RNC is getting overwhelmed</a> “with angry calls over its practice of overrunning town hall meetings” on the health care bill, so overwhelmed that they are now redirecting those calls to the DNC.</p>
<p>The O-Team has identified the “t<a href="http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/05/former-copyright-lobbyist-is-obamas/" rel="nofollow">op candidate </a>for a US Attorney position.”  He is a former “copyright and cyber-security lobbyist for companies like Microsoft and IBM. . .,”</p>
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		<title>By: LKN2</title>
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		<dc:creator>LKN2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Granny may not live long enough to go on Medicare.  The compromise working its way through congress will give insurers the right to charge older people up to 7 1/2 times the rate for younger people, in exchange for covering “pre-existing conditions.” That’s a massive increase compared to current health insurance plans.  The government will FORCE granny to purchase health insurance, at the expense of food and shelter.  Guess that’s where the “euthanasia” comes from!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granny may not live long enough to go on Medicare.  The compromise working its way through congress will give insurers the right to charge older people up to 7 1/2 times the rate for younger people, in exchange for covering “pre-existing conditions.” That’s a massive increase compared to current health insurance plans.  The government will FORCE granny to purchase health insurance, at the expense of food and shelter.  Guess that’s where the “euthanasia” comes from!</p>
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		<title>By: jawbone</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179284</link>
		<dc:creator>jawbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dems have been approaching this whole health CARE argument ack-basswards:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People do not cherish their insurance companies; they value getting health CARE when they need it preferably from providers of their choice. So, why are Dems trying to sell private insurance’s rapacious plans to the public, when what they want is a program which allows choice of provider with certainty of CARE? Medical and financial security is what people want and desperately need.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Medicare for All with a Robust Private &lt;em&gt;Option&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That says what people want, and what Dems should be arguing for and talking about. Voting for.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I do know some people who don’t want to give up their insurance plans: people on Medicare and a vet with VA coverage. All government plans, single payer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why not choose the plan which can actually save money? Why settle for &lt;strong&gt;“only” 50-70% cost increases instead of 100% increases&lt;/strong&gt;? Medicare for All single payer would &lt;strong&gt;save $350 to $400 Billion a year&lt;/strong&gt;, $350 to $400 Trillion over 10 years. Not an increase of 50-70% of whatever the cost is as this year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Medicare for All with a robust private option — The uniquely American solution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dems have been approaching this whole health CARE argument ack-basswards:</p>
<p>People do not cherish their insurance companies; they value getting health CARE when they need it preferably from providers of their choice. So, why are Dems trying to sell private insurance’s rapacious plans to the public, when what they want is a program which allows choice of provider with certainty of CARE? Medical and financial security is what people want and desperately need.</p>
<p><strong>Medicare for All with a Robust Private <em>Option</em></strong></p>
<p>That says what people want, and what Dems should be arguing for and talking about. Voting for.</p>
<p>BTW, I do know some people who don’t want to give up their insurance plans: people on Medicare and a vet with VA coverage. All government plans, single payer. </p>
<p>Why not choose the plan which can actually save money? Why settle for <strong>“only” 50-70% cost increases instead of 100% increases</strong>? Medicare for All single payer would <strong>save $350 to $400 Billion a year</strong>, $350 to $400 Trillion over 10 years. Not an increase of 50-70% of whatever the cost is as this year.</p>
<p>Medicare for All with a robust private option — The uniquely American solution.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/mark-ambinder-thinks-granny-really-is-a-clunker/#comment-179279</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;we LOVE you when you’re sadistic&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was gonna do a link, but sadistically left it as is to further highlight how absurdly wonky it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mmmmmmm, sadistical …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(wink)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we LOVE you when you’re sadistic</p>
<blockquote><p>I was gonna do a link, but sadistically left it as is to further highlight how absurdly wonky it is.</p>
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<p>mmmmmmm, sadistical …</p>
<p>(wink)</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s the thing, HRC and Co will be hearing more of this when they’re meeting away from Cameras … ObamaCo has to set the example or it’s all just fluff !&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s the thing, HRC and Co will be hearing more of this when they’re meeting away from Cameras … ObamaCo has to set the example or it’s all just fluff !</p>
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