Comments on: Why Can’t CIA Handle the Same Level of Oversight the Military Gets? http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Mason http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179245 Mason Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:32:56 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179245 <p>My guess is Hastert and the Republicans didn’t care what was going on because they were focused on lining their pockets with as much cash as possible. Hastert probably said something like, “Do anything you want. I don’t need to know or care to know. I’m here to make money and have fun.”</p> My guess is Hastert and the Republicans didn’t care what was going on because they were focused on lining their pockets with as much cash as possible. Hastert probably said something like, “Do anything you want. I don’t need to know or care to know. I’m here to make money and have fun.”

]]> By: Mason http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179242 Mason Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:23:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179242 <p>Assuming for the sake of argument that 9/11 was cooked up by Bush & Cheney with the assistance of Osama bin Laden and financial assistance from the Saudi government, wouldn’t all of us be better off knowing the truth?</p> Assuming for the sake of argument that 9/11 was cooked up by Bush & Cheney with the assistance of Osama bin Laden and financial assistance from the Saudi government, wouldn’t all of us be better off knowing the truth?

]]> By: Kathryn in MA http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179228 Kathryn in MA Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:04:20 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179228 <p>Actually, IIRC, the earliness of the timing was to insure that the hijacked planes had fewer people aboard to subdue.</p> Actually, IIRC, the earliness of the timing was to insure that the hijacked planes had fewer people aboard to subdue.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179222 bmaz Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:40:13 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179222 <p>Right. They were never even complying in good faith with a “Gang of Four” schedule, not that such would have complied with the law in the first place.</p> Right. They were never even complying in good faith with a “Gang of Four” schedule, not that such would have complied with the law in the first place.

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179220 Mary Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:28:54 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179220 <p>If you go back and look at the torture briefings schedule that the CIA releaased, Hastert is the name of the “gang of 8″ that never appears. I know they were claiming a “gang of 4″ briefing, but if you look that’s not really what was happening either at first and certainly when Pelosi moved to minority leader from Intel, so the Dem leader was briefed in from prior briefings but still not the Repub leader, it looks very odd. imo, fwiw.</p> If you go back and look at the torture briefings schedule that the CIA releaased, Hastert is the name of the “gang of 8″ that never appears. I know they were claiming a “gang of 4″ briefing, but if you look that’s not really what was happening either at first and certainly when Pelosi moved to minority leader from Intel, so the Dem leader was briefed in from prior briefings but still not the Repub leader, it looks very odd. imo, fwiw.

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179219 Mary Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:19:36 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179219 <p>And that box was enclosed within Abu Ghraib and Military Police activities. But even within that box, he kept getting info that showed that Military Intelligence was what really needed to be investigated and pursued and that has never happened. Obama has obdurately refused to open any MI investigation and Congress has barely touched on what was going on.</p> And that box was enclosed within Abu Ghraib and Military Police activities. But even within that box, he kept getting info that showed that Military Intelligence was what really needed to be investigated and pursued and that has never happened. Obama has obdurately refused to open any MI investigation and Congress has barely touched on what was going on.

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179199 Gitcheegumee Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:00:37 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179199 <p>#79</p> <p>Here is an excerpt of an article that may be of interest to you:</p> <p>****<br /> Read entry |<br /> This all ties in with the Plame and MZM-Cunningham cases</p> <p>Posted by leveymg in General Discussion<br /> Sun May 27th 2007, 10:54 AM</p> <p>RESPONSE TO POST: Head Of CIA’s WMD Division-Told Underlings To GIVE BUSH -The Intelligence To ALLOW Him To Go To War <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu…" rel="nofollow">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu…</a> ;forum=389&topic_id=980204&mesg_id=980204<br /> The October 2002 Iraq WMD NIE and the eventual outing of Valerie Plame have a tie-in with the MZM scandal. They present strong circumstantial evidence that the reason that Valerie Plame was “outed” by WHIG was to shut down CIA-Counter Proliferation Division (CPD), where Plame worked, in favor of CIA WINPAC, which had been tamed and harnessed by the neocons.</p> <p>As this tale makes clear WINPAC was delivering the goods, falsified Iraq WMD reports, in large part because of the leadership of Mr. Foley, and also because WINPAC had outsourced much of its analysis work to private contractor MZM, which was stovepiping bad intel through the Army’s National Ground Intelligence Center (NGIC) at Ft. Belvoir. See, <a href="http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exe…" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exe…</a></p> #79

Here is an excerpt of an article that may be of interest to you:

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Read entry |
This all ties in with the Plame and MZM-Cunningham cases

Posted by leveymg in General Discussion
Sun May 27th 2007, 10:54 AM

RESPONSE TO POST: Head Of CIA’s WMD Division-Told Underlings To GIVE BUSH -The Intelligence To ALLOW Him To Go To War http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu… ;forum=389&topic_id=980204&mesg_id=980204
The October 2002 Iraq WMD NIE and the eventual outing of Valerie Plame have a tie-in with the MZM scandal. They present strong circumstantial evidence that the reason that Valerie Plame was “outed” by WHIG was to shut down CIA-Counter Proliferation Division (CPD), where Plame worked, in favor of CIA WINPAC, which had been tamed and harnessed by the neocons.

As this tale makes clear WINPAC was delivering the goods, falsified Iraq WMD reports, in large part because of the leadership of Mr. Foley, and also because WINPAC had outsourced much of its analysis work to private contractor MZM, which was stovepiping bad intel through the Army’s National Ground Intelligence Center (NGIC) at Ft. Belvoir. See, http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exe…

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179196 Leen Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:29:31 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179196 <p>Jason Vest wrote that article about ATC (Perle’s involvement) a month after they outed Plame.</p> <p>Keep wondering if the public will ever have a clue as to just how the outing of Plame undermined U.S. National Security</p> Jason Vest wrote that article about ATC (Perle’s involvement) a month after they outed Plame.

Keep wondering if the public will ever have a clue as to just how the outing of Plame undermined U.S. National Security

]]> By: JasonLeopold http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179186 JasonLeopold Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:11:25 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179186 <p>haha! We have so many to choose from</p> haha! We have so many to choose from

]]> By: Mason http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179185 Mason Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:28:55 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/08/04/why-cant-cia-handle-the-same-level-of-oversight-the-military-gets/#comment-179185 <p>I wonder if Mr. Prince seeks religious inspiration at the C Street house of warship?</p> I wonder if Mr. Prince seeks religious inspiration at the C Street house of warship?

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