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	<title>Comments on: Karl Rove: That&#8217;s Why They Call It a Limited Hang-Out</title>
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		<title>By: alinaustex</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/31/karl-rove-thats-why-they-call-it-a-limited-hang-out/#comment-178805</link>
		<dc:creator>alinaustex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:fatster@93&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fatster@93&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Thank you its fatster , the linkages on the internet tubes never do what I want them to do anyway ….And is it just me are does Gov Perry look a lot like Rev Haggard (DOH !!!!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p> Thank you its fatster , the linkages on the internet tubes never do what I want them to do anyway ….And is it just me are does Gov Perry look a lot like Rev Haggard (DOH !!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/31/karl-rove-thats-why-they-call-it-a-limited-hang-out/#comment-178747</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.statesman.com/search/content/gen/ap/TX_Hutchison_Web_site.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this the link&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is <a href="http://www.statesman.com/search/content/gen/ap/TX_Hutchison_Web_site.html" rel="nofollow">this the link</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: alinaustex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alinaustex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:bmaz@89&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bmaz@89&lt;/a&gt; ,&lt;br /&gt;
 But the media is paid to report the horse race no matter how putrid . The interesting twist to this is that the moderate middle of our political spectrum is starting to get it - that the wing nuts are out of control.Down here in Texas for example Tom Delay is out of power -and is no longer generating the kind of fear and loathing that could cause all in the gop to follow the party line. When I listen to the ‘conservative’ columnist Ms Parker on the bobblehead talking shows she is starting to move to the center too.&lt;br /&gt;
  I wish I was saavy enough on the ‘internet tubes ” to link to the Austin American website - because it tells the tale - Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s campaign message has sublimimal messages embedded in its homepage  accussing Gov Perry of being a closeted gay man among other gems ,&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:bmaz@89" rel="nofollow">bmaz@89</a> ,<br />
 But the media is paid to report the horse race no matter how putrid . The interesting twist to this is that the moderate middle of our political spectrum is starting to get it &#8211; that the wing nuts are out of control.Down here in Texas for example Tom Delay is out of power -and is no longer generating the kind of fear and loathing that could cause all in the gop to follow the party line. When I listen to the ‘conservative’ columnist Ms Parker on the bobblehead talking shows she is starting to move to the center too.<br />
  I wish I was saavy enough on the ‘internet tubes ” to link to the Austin American website &#8211; because it tells the tale &#8211; Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s campaign message has sublimimal messages embedded in its homepage  accussing Gov Perry of being a closeted gay man among other gems ,</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, I think you are right - the GOP would self destruct of its own bloated weight and volatility - if the media, who generally do know better, but cannot pass up a manufactured horserace/fight, would simply quit reporting bizarre rantings as an equivalent logic and position.  They really are propping up a rotting, festering corpse at this point to the detriment of the country.  It is one thing to do that when there are competing ideas and ideologies; but quite another when there is nothing on the other side but retrogression and refusal to progress. A healthy two party system with competing ideas is a good thing; but creating a false equivalency and letting that thought pervade the ridiculously uninformed simpleton public may yet prove the end of our little republican democracy experiment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I think you are right &#8211; the GOP would self destruct of its own bloated weight and volatility &#8211; if the media, who generally do know better, but cannot pass up a manufactured horserace/fight, would simply quit reporting bizarre rantings as an equivalent logic and position.  They really are propping up a rotting, festering corpse at this point to the detriment of the country.  It is one thing to do that when there are competing ideas and ideologies; but quite another when there is nothing on the other side but retrogression and refusal to progress. A healthy two party system with competing ideas is a good thing; but creating a false equivalency and letting that thought pervade the ridiculously uninformed simpleton public may yet prove the end of our little republican democracy experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have you read the piece by Gore Vidal over at Alternet yet?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Terrific!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Entitled “America the Great…Police State”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; There is an alarming ,accepted escalation of racial profiling and abuse of authority by the boys in blue….or should I say Brownshirts?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This Gates incident has NOT given me confidence that those in authority,starting with the local beat cop,will be held to a higher standard that their positions of authority demand.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the piece by Gore Vidal over at Alternet yet?</p>
<p>Terrific!</p>
<p>Entitled “America the Great…Police State”.</p>
<p> There is an alarming ,accepted escalation of racial profiling and abuse of authority by the boys in blue….or should I say Brownshirts?</p>
<p>This Gates incident has NOT given me confidence that those in authority,starting with the local beat cop,will be held to a higher standard that their positions of authority demand.</p>
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		<title>By: alinaustex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alinaustex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rayne @ 88 .&lt;br /&gt;
  The Obama Presidency has bought out all the race baiting wing nuts- “a rose by any other name ” .What gets me is we have been seeing this comtemperanouesly  for a good while with no real pushback - think the Brook Brother riots in Florida during the 2000 disputed election .What further gets me is that a former Nixon plumber, ex convict G Gordon Liddy is given prime air time on Chris Matthew’s show. I really am beginning to believe that all the crazy reactionary  wingnuts have united -Segretti was an operator that stayed out of the limelight - that is what made him very dangerous -right now all of this white nationalist /racist/ fascist /christian mafia is all out in the open -Lou Dobbs is even defending these nut bars-which means we may have an opportunity to confront these pissants  - And  all of this goes back to the Dixiecrats who abandoned LBJ when the civil rights bill passed. My hope &amp; belief is that this will be the demise of the gop - otherwise we are in for some very toughs times for our collective Comity . BTW a good book to read to put this in historical context is :The Confederates in the Attic ..&lt;br /&gt;
  Senator  Voinovich is correct the gop leadership has  too many angry male white southerners - hell over in East Texas where I’m from they are still fighting the War of Northern Aggression …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayne @ 88 .<br />
  The Obama Presidency has bought out all the race baiting wing nuts- “a rose by any other name ” .What gets me is we have been seeing this comtemperanouesly  for a good while with no real pushback &#8211; think the Brook Brother riots in Florida during the 2000 disputed election .What further gets me is that a former Nixon plumber, ex convict G Gordon Liddy is given prime air time on Chris Matthew’s show. I really am beginning to believe that all the crazy reactionary  wingnuts have united -Segretti was an operator that stayed out of the limelight &#8211; that is what made him very dangerous -right now all of this white nationalist /racist/ fascist /christian mafia is all out in the open -Lou Dobbs is even defending these nut bars-which means we may have an opportunity to confront these pissants  &#8211; And  all of this goes back to the Dixiecrats who abandoned LBJ when the civil rights bill passed. My hope &amp; belief is that this will be the demise of the gop &#8211; otherwise we are in for some very toughs times for our collective Comity . BTW a good book to read to put this in historical context is :The Confederates in the Attic ..<br />
  Senator  Voinovich is correct the gop leadership has  too many angry male white southerners &#8211; hell over in East Texas where I’m from they are still fighting the War of Northern Aggression …</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That bit about Segretti using the white nationalists is something we should be studying, as I suspect we are seeing a return to this M.O. with the use of race baiting. The question will be whether this is the work of the really dirty fighters among social conservatives, or a bastardized version of Deadeye’s squads.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That bit about Segretti using the white nationalists is something we should be studying, as I suspect we are seeing a return to this M.O. with the use of race baiting. The question will be whether this is the work of the really dirty fighters among social conservatives, or a bastardized version of Deadeye’s squads.</p>
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		<title>By: alinaustex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alinaustex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gitcheegumee@ 82 ,&lt;br /&gt;
  The point I was making is  surely that the GOP as we know it apears to be disntergrating before our very eyes . I was not by any means trying to paint this gop meltdown as any kind of ‘good guys vs bad guys ” .To me  -its more like watching two organized crime syndicates fight over receding profits and turf . You are absoulutely correct - Pappa Bush is connected to ,BCCI and its ilegal activities funding Ollie North ,Pappa Bush also went to war with Saddam the first time over Oil - (its even been reported that Pappa Bush help run Saddam and other Baathist leadership as  a cia assets  when Pappa was the DCI ) .Again the point in my view in this intraparty meltdown is to exploit it - to further the progressive agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
Kay Bailey Hutchinson is the corporatist gop gubanatorial candidate , Gov Rick (Lets Secede )Perry is the christian mafia /necocon candidate and right now as we speak it is an ongoing donnybrook between them .&lt;br /&gt;
  Now if the Democrats are smart we will exploit this divison and run State Senator &amp;  former Mayor of Austin Watson as our candidate -and leave former Dubya appointed ambassador Schieffer where he belongs with the moderate Kay Bailey Hutchinson campaign .&lt;br /&gt;
  And many,many of us sorely mourn Molly Ivins passing still  - we miss her wit, her wisdom , her political insights - but most of all we miss her Courage, and Persistence. And more then likely she would have endorsed Watson by now -even though he said he has not made up his mind to run yet .&lt;br /&gt;
And many of us never knew Molly personally - but we all felt she was our friend and mentor from her writing . It  ain’t no telling how much fun she would have had writing about this gop present day meltown - karma is a coming for kkkARL  , …and for the rest of the gop …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gitcheegumee@ 82 ,<br />
  The point I was making is  surely that the GOP as we know it apears to be disntergrating before our very eyes . I was not by any means trying to paint this gop meltdown as any kind of ‘good guys vs bad guys ” .To me  -its more like watching two organized crime syndicates fight over receding profits and turf . You are absoulutely correct &#8211; Pappa Bush is connected to ,BCCI and its ilegal activities funding Ollie North ,Pappa Bush also went to war with Saddam the first time over Oil &#8211; (its even been reported that Pappa Bush help run Saddam and other Baathist leadership as  a cia assets  when Pappa was the DCI ) .Again the point in my view in this intraparty meltdown is to exploit it &#8211; to further the progressive agenda.<br />
Kay Bailey Hutchinson is the corporatist gop gubanatorial candidate , Gov Rick (Lets Secede )Perry is the christian mafia /necocon candidate and right now as we speak it is an ongoing donnybrook between them .<br />
  Now if the Democrats are smart we will exploit this divison and run State Senator &amp;  former Mayor of Austin Watson as our candidate -and leave former Dubya appointed ambassador Schieffer where he belongs with the moderate Kay Bailey Hutchinson campaign .<br />
  And many,many of us sorely mourn Molly Ivins passing still  &#8211; we miss her wit, her wisdom , her political insights &#8211; but most of all we miss her Courage, and Persistence. And more then likely she would have endorsed Watson by now -even though he said he has not made up his mind to run yet .<br />
And many of us never knew Molly personally &#8211; but we all felt she was our friend and mentor from her writing . It  ain’t no telling how much fun she would have had writing about this gop present day meltown &#8211; karma is a coming for kkkARL  , …and for the rest of the gop …</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Related?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmm…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They do sound quite a bit more lurid than alluring,no?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related?</p>
<p>Hmm…</p>
<p>They do sound quite a bit more lurid than alluring,no?</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EXPOSÉ: THE “CHRISTIAN” MAFIA&lt;br /&gt;
The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer …&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm&lt;/a&gt; - Cached - Similar&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXPOSÉ: THE “CHRISTIAN” MAFIA<br />
The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer …<br /><a href="http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm</a> &#8211; Cached &#8211; Similar</p>
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