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		<title>By: kindGSL</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/c-streets-waterloo/#comment-176177</link>
		<dc:creator>kindGSL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought “set free” sounded more like the experience of the English and Irish surfs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When they were no longer needed on their master’s farms for farm labor after mechanization, they were driven from their ancestral huts and hollows. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was common for these economic refugees to  gather in jolly old London town seeking work. There they filled the poor houses and work houses until they either emigrated to an English colony, starved or died of disease.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought “set free” sounded more like the experience of the English and Irish surfs. </p>
<p>When they were no longer needed on their master’s farms for farm labor after mechanization, they were driven from their ancestral huts and hollows. </p>
<p>It was common for these economic refugees to  gather in jolly old London town seeking work. There they filled the poor houses and work houses until they either emigrated to an English colony, starved or died of disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/c-streets-waterloo/#comment-176158</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not C street but healthcare… Lance Armstrong supports health care reform.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;And throughout 2009 and this Tour, I’ve been inspired by the tenacity of U.S. Senator Edward M. Kennedy. His recent reflections in Newsweek make clear that social justice must be the underlying principle for healthcare reform, an idea LIVESTRONG seeks to embody, just as he has throughout his career. And there’s a lot of reform that needs to happen. Despite the fact that the U.S. spends more than any other industrialized country on health care, we do not achieve better outcomes on leading health indicators like infant mortality and average life span. Too many Americans live without health insurance (and I was once a member of that club). Too many people don’t have access to care. It’s simply inexcusable.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I know mountain climbs pretty well. What President Obama and others are encouraging in the United States with healthcare is a tough climb – no doubt. To Senator Kennedy’s point, though, we have a chance right now to initiate a major shift in our healthcare system. If we succeed in making a significant and substantial change, it will be the first in three generations. It is the common expectation in many countries that every citizen should have access to quality, affordable healthcare, part of a moral investment in social justice. Why not in the United States as well?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;July 23, 2009 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.khLXK1PxHmF/b.5333111/k.35D7/Mountain_Climbs_An_Open_Letter.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Today Lance rides in the individual time trial.  He needs to gain fifty seconds on Frank Schleck to be back in third place. Saturday will be a good stage to watch in he mountains-Ventoux. Sunday they race up and down the Champs-Élysées.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not C street but healthcare… Lance Armstrong supports health care reform.  </p>
<blockquote><p><em>And throughout 2009 and this Tour, I’ve been inspired by the tenacity of U.S. Senator Edward M. Kennedy. His recent reflections in Newsweek make clear that social justice must be the underlying principle for healthcare reform, an idea LIVESTRONG seeks to embody, just as he has throughout his career. And there’s a lot of reform that needs to happen. Despite the fact that the U.S. spends more than any other industrialized country on health care, we do not achieve better outcomes on leading health indicators like infant mortality and average life span. Too many Americans live without health insurance (and I was once a member of that club). Too many people don’t have access to care. It’s simply inexcusable.</em></p>
<p><em>I know mountain climbs pretty well. What President Obama and others are encouraging in the United States with healthcare is a tough climb – no doubt. To Senator Kennedy’s point, though, we have a chance right now to initiate a major shift in our healthcare system. If we succeed in making a significant and substantial change, it will be the first in three generations. It is the common expectation in many countries that every citizen should have access to quality, affordable healthcare, part of a moral investment in social justice. Why not in the United States as well?</em></p>
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<p>July 23, 2009 <a href="http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.khLXK1PxHmF/b.5333111/k.35D7/Mountain_Climbs_An_Open_Letter.htm" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></p>
<p>Today Lance rides in the individual time trial.  He needs to gain fifty seconds on Frank Schleck to be back in third place. Saturday will be a good stage to watch in he mountains-Ventoux. Sunday they race up and down the Champs-Élysées.</p>
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		<title>By: Bassface</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/c-streets-waterloo/#comment-176152</link>
		<dc:creator>Bassface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More like ‘Anti-C’ Street. This is the gang of thugs that hi-jacked Christianity and the Republican party and turned them into ‘mindless’ zombies.&lt;br /&gt;
Who said the ‘Anti-Christ’ couldn’t be a group of ‘power-vampires’ wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like ‘Anti-C’ Street. This is the gang of thugs that hi-jacked Christianity and the Republican party and turned them into ‘mindless’ zombies.<br />
Who said the ‘Anti-Christ’ couldn’t be a group of ‘power-vampires’ wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible….</p>
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		<title>By: constantweader</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/c-streets-waterloo/#comment-176138</link>
		<dc:creator>constantweader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Marcy. As much fun as it is watching Johns for Jesus self-destruct, you have hit on what the real story is — the “C” Street cronies so-far successful efforts to undermine programs that benefit the poor &amp; the middle class.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Constant Weader at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.RealityChex.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.RealityChex.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Marcy. As much fun as it is watching Johns for Jesus self-destruct, you have hit on what the real story is — the “C” Street cronies so-far successful efforts to undermine programs that benefit the poor &amp; the middle class.</p>
<p>The Constant Weader at <a href="http://www.RealityChex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealityChex.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;way to go, mr buzzkill&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;And they can fuggedabout BIRTHDAY CAKE,btw.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ya had to announce that on fatster’s birthday ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(wink)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>way to go, mr buzzkill</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>And they can fuggedabout BIRTHDAY CAKE,btw.</strong></p>
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<p>ya had to announce that on fatster’s birthday ???</p>
<p>(wink)</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/c-streets-waterloo/#comment-176092</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What do people feel?  Most people burned out re outrage, too. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do their actual followers feel?  Devil they know better than devil they don’t know?  The birther movement shows how round the bend the loyalists to these guys are. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I did not know demint was in the club so spreading that info is helpful.  So spreading the word is important and linking him with them and their awesomely grotesque exceptional groupthink.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do people feel?  Most people burned out re outrage, too. </p>
<p>What do their actual followers feel?  Devil they know better than devil they don’t know?  The birther movement shows how round the bend the loyalists to these guys are. </p>
<p>But I did not know demint was in the club so spreading that info is helpful.  So spreading the word is important and linking him with them and their awesomely grotesque exceptional groupthink.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/c-streets-waterloo/#comment-176091</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reminds me of an observation by Dominic Crossan.  In the first century C.E. Mediterranean world, virgin births, resurrections into eternal life and man-gods like Augustus were not novel concepts.  Applying them to a Roman emperor or Grecian hero was commonplace; applying them to a peasant village Jew was stunning.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How ironic that the Family would revert to an older, more limited application.  If it doesn’t make them a corporate anti-Christ, it certainly makes them anti-Jesus.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The same could be said of other institutions who turned the admonitions of prophets and a peasant Jew into words of praise for power and the institutions that maintain it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of an observation by Dominic Crossan.  In the first century C.E. Mediterranean world, virgin births, resurrections into eternal life and man-gods like Augustus were not novel concepts.  Applying them to a Roman emperor or Grecian hero was commonplace; applying them to a peasant village Jew was stunning.  </p>
<p>How ironic that the Family would revert to an older, more limited application.  If it doesn’t make them a corporate anti-Christ, it certainly makes them anti-Jesus.  </p>
<p>The same could be said of other institutions who turned the admonitions of prophets and a peasant Jew into words of praise for power and the institutions that maintain it.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, ew. Have heard some of RM’s covering of C-street and am stunned by the “exceptionalism” they apply to themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are exceptional and therefore beyond morality guidelines of society and their cronyism keeps that industrial strength cronyism kool aid flowing. Manipulation of wedge issues and thin veneer of their own faux-fundamental Christianity.  And they use the cronyism, the fear of the “other” and demonization and simple status quo loyalty their constituency has. throw in authoritarian following.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Economic sociopathy someone called it.  Like the documentary The Corporation which claims once it–the corporation entity– got rights of a legal person it exploited that protection. The personality profile of a legal person corporation would be of a psychopath, ruthless and self-aggrandizing. Amorality on steroids. Predatory.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It used to be that the collective stockholders were the conscienceless mass that things were done in their name, horrifying antisocial devastating things to people, to countries, but then the executives came to feel and manipulate and become all the more advantaged by their power.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These C street moral monsters have the same grandiosity.  There is only the 13th commandment they live by. Don’t get caught.  And if you do, manipulate and lie and spin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somehow they explain away their indiscretions. They are so misogynistic and amoral, that bad behavior will continue to leak out, but their cronies will circle the wagons and have become masterful in swiftboating everyone else.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democrats don’t swiftboat well, even when it is not true swiftboating, and they actually have the evidence.  And blind loyalty, voter cronyism, is like team loyalty, my team right or wrong.  Must win.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ew. Have heard some of RM’s covering of C-street and am stunned by the “exceptionalism” they apply to themselves.</p>
<p>They are exceptional and therefore beyond morality guidelines of society and their cronyism keeps that industrial strength cronyism kool aid flowing. Manipulation of wedge issues and thin veneer of their own faux-fundamental Christianity.  And they use the cronyism, the fear of the “other” and demonization and simple status quo loyalty their constituency has. throw in authoritarian following.  </p>
<p>Economic sociopathy someone called it.  Like the documentary The Corporation which claims once it–the corporation entity– got rights of a legal person it exploited that protection. The personality profile of a legal person corporation would be of a psychopath, ruthless and self-aggrandizing. Amorality on steroids. Predatory.</p>
<p>It used to be that the collective stockholders were the conscienceless mass that things were done in their name, horrifying antisocial devastating things to people, to countries, but then the executives came to feel and manipulate and become all the more advantaged by their power.  </p>
<p>These C street moral monsters have the same grandiosity.  There is only the 13th commandment they live by. Don’t get caught.  And if you do, manipulate and lie and spin.</p>
<p>Somehow they explain away their indiscretions. They are so misogynistic and amoral, that bad behavior will continue to leak out, but their cronies will circle the wagons and have become masterful in swiftboating everyone else.  </p>
<p>Democrats don’t swiftboat well, even when it is not true swiftboating, and they actually have the evidence.  And blind loyalty, voter cronyism, is like team loyalty, my team right or wrong.  Must win.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Crony Capitalism = the Divine Write of Kings.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crony Capitalism = the Divine Write of Kings.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@76&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And near starvation when they do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And they can fuggedabout BIRTHDAY CAKE,btw.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>And near starvation when they do.</p>
<p>And they can fuggedabout BIRTHDAY CAKE,btw.</p>
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