Comments on: “C” Is for Cheater http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Mason http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174603 Mason Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:55:57 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174603 <p>One of the central ideas that the C Street Family regard as Christ’s true message is the notion that by virtue of their positions as elected officials, without regard to how they won, and its attendant wealth and privilege, they are the Chosen Ones who are Saved no matter what they do. According to Jeff Sharlett, author of The Family, they are a tightly bonded, wealthy, and influential group whose members accept any misconduct committed by a member and deal with it in-house exclusively by discussing it with the offender in their discussion groups. Adultery appears to be scarcely worth an arched eyebrow, given its apparent popularity in the group.</p> <p>They quite literally believe they can commit any crime, even murder with impunity, so long as the police don’t arrest them, and freely talk about it with fellow members without fear of condemnation or anyone ratting them out.</p> <p>Just like Jesus said in his Sermon on the Mount, huh?</p> <p>Rachel Maddow interviewed Jeff Sharlett about this insane and scary group in two back-to-back shows last week. The interviews are available for your discerning pleasure on her website.</p> One of the central ideas that the C Street Family regard as Christ’s true message is the notion that by virtue of their positions as elected officials, without regard to how they won, and its attendant wealth and privilege, they are the Chosen Ones who are Saved no matter what they do. According to Jeff Sharlett, author of The Family, they are a tightly bonded, wealthy, and influential group whose members accept any misconduct committed by a member and deal with it in-house exclusively by discussing it with the offender in their discussion groups. Adultery appears to be scarcely worth an arched eyebrow, given its apparent popularity in the group.

They quite literally believe they can commit any crime, even murder with impunity, so long as the police don’t arrest them, and freely talk about it with fellow members without fear of condemnation or anyone ratting them out.

Just like Jesus said in his Sermon on the Mount, huh?

Rachel Maddow interviewed Jeff Sharlett about this insane and scary group in two back-to-back shows last week. The interviews are available for your discerning pleasure on her website.

]]> By: fatster http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174551 fatster Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:23:02 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174551 <p>Oh, that’s rich. She was judged to be “demonically possessed” simply because her asshat of a husband didn’t turn her on or couldn’t keep up long enough to get her off? Sheesh.</p> Oh, that’s rich. She was judged to be “demonically possessed” simply because her asshat of a husband didn’t turn her on or couldn’t keep up long enough to get her off? Sheesh.

]]> By: Citizen92 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174549 Citizen92 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:12:36 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174549 <p>What does Chip’s daddy (Fifth Circuit, George W. Bush recess-appointed <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Charles_W._Pickering%2C_Sr." rel="nofollow">Judge Pickering</a>, now retired) think of this behaviour?</p> What does Chip’s daddy (Fifth Circuit, George W. Bush recess-appointed Judge Pickering, now retired) think of this behaviour?

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174534 Mary Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:55:22 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174534 <p>SO there were journals?</p> <p><a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/suit_pickering_chose_mistress_over_senate_seat.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....e_seat.php</a></p> <blockquote><p>Leisha Pickering apparently gleaned this information from her husband’s journals and other documents, which a judge ordered returned to Rep. Pickering. The judge also apparently forbade Mrs. Pickering and her lawyers from discussing what was in the documents.</p></blockquote> <p>There’s a pretty accomodating judge.</p> SO there were journals?

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi…..e_seat.php

Leisha Pickering apparently gleaned this information from her husband’s journals and other documents, which a judge ordered returned to Rep. Pickering. The judge also apparently forbade Mrs. Pickering and her lawyers from discussing what was in the documents.

There’s a pretty accomodating judge.

]]> By: Citizen92 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174529 Citizen92 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:47:11 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174529 <p>In my snap judgment Mrs. Pickering’s nonprofit and business activities, I’d say she was:</p> <p>1 - Pretty much owned by Haley Barbour<br /> 2 - Pretty much dependent on Barbour related activities for revenue</p> <p>And (forgive me, but) her husband (serving as a Congressman or Senator) was pretty much the meal ticket into that world.</p> <p>I think she wants back at her husband, because he ruined a good thing going.</p> <p>But judging from <a href="http://www.magnoliareport.com/Leisha.htm" rel="nofollow">this interview</a>, she was already lukewarm to Chippy back in 2004…</p> <blockquote><p><i>5. Is there a typical day in the life of the wife of a Congressman?</i><br /> You mean is there a typical day in the life of a mother to five boys and the answer is no.</p></blockquote> In my snap judgment Mrs. Pickering’s nonprofit and business activities, I’d say she was:

1 – Pretty much owned by Haley Barbour
2 – Pretty much dependent on Barbour related activities for revenue

And (forgive me, but) her husband (serving as a Congressman or Senator) was pretty much the meal ticket into that world.

I think she wants back at her husband, because he ruined a good thing going.

But judging from this interview, she was already lukewarm to Chippy back in 2004…

5. Is there a typical day in the life of the wife of a Congressman?
You mean is there a typical day in the life of a mother to five boys and the answer is no.

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174526 Mary Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:43:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174526 <p>A subpoena from Pickering’s wife might be a way to test that. On Maddow’s show, Sharlet talked about a member getting counseling from David Coe bc the member thought his wife was demonically possessed. Coe agreed she could very well be - the symptoms being that she wasn’t sexually satisfied with her husband. </p> <p>Hmmmm - does this mean the C-Street crew needs to undertake a mass exorcism of Pickering, Ensign and Sanford? </p> <p>BTW isn’t Bill Nelson on the list too (the C-Street list, not the exorcism list)? His wife on the board? If so - shouldn’t she be a good person to be directing follow ups to - maybe to fill in the medical services being provided by Dr. Coburn at the church? </p> <p>And wasn’t St. Pete a member as well? </p> <p>@32 - that’s great! I didn’t see that, thanks for catching and sharing. And @36 - and elsewhere. Thanks much. </p> <p>@55 - “David from C Street” I didn’t realize that. Her death was very weird and didn’t get nearly the interest you would have thought.</p> A subpoena from Pickering’s wife might be a way to test that. On Maddow’s show, Sharlet talked about a member getting counseling from David Coe bc the member thought his wife was demonically possessed. Coe agreed she could very well be – the symptoms being that she wasn’t sexually satisfied with her husband.

Hmmmm – does this mean the C-Street crew needs to undertake a mass exorcism of Pickering, Ensign and Sanford?

BTW isn’t Bill Nelson on the list too (the C-Street list, not the exorcism list)? His wife on the board? If so – shouldn’t she be a good person to be directing follow ups to – maybe to fill in the medical services being provided by Dr. Coburn at the church?

And wasn’t St. Pete a member as well?

@32 – that’s great! I didn’t see that, thanks for catching and sharing. And @36 – and elsewhere. Thanks much.

@55 – “David from C Street” I didn’t realize that. Her death was very weird and didn’t get nearly the interest you would have thought.

]]> By: tejanarusa http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174519 tejanarusa Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:27:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174519 <p>Curiouser and curiouser.<br /> Not least because I had thought that suits for “alienation of affection” had been barred decades ago.<br /> Skimming quickly through the complaint/petition, I did not see any statute cited, so assume they’re going on common law.</p> <p>Anybody know if these are often successful in Mississippi?</p> <p>Even at common law, it seems like no-fault divorce - why would you want to stay in a marriage with someone who doesn’t want you?</p> <p>Which leads me to the conclusion that Mrs. Pickering (I doubt she prefers the title “Ms”) mostly wants to publicize the behavior and humiliate her husband, and, not least, his mistress. not that she really wants him back.</p> Curiouser and curiouser.
Not least because I had thought that suits for “alienation of affection” had been barred decades ago.
Skimming quickly through the complaint/petition, I did not see any statute cited, so assume they’re going on common law.

Anybody know if these are often successful in Mississippi?

Even at common law, it seems like no-fault divorce – why would you want to stay in a marriage with someone who doesn’t want you?

Which leads me to the conclusion that Mrs. Pickering (I doubt she prefers the title “Ms”) mostly wants to publicize the behavior and humiliate her husband, and, not least, his mistress. not that she really wants him back.

]]> By: fatster http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174511 fatster Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:08:38 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174511 <p>My goodness! You have been doing some very interesting sleuthing. Many thnx.</p> My goodness! You have been doing some very interesting sleuthing. Many thnx.

]]> By: damagedone http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174495 damagedone Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:30:38 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174495 <p>According Mississippi paper, spokeman for Haley Barbour says Senate seat was not offered. I wonder who is telling the truth?</p> <p><a href="http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090717/NEWS/907170351/Pickering+s+wife+sues+alleged+mistress" rel="nofollow">http://www.clarionledger.com/a.....d+mistress</a></p> According Mississippi paper, spokeman for Haley Barbour says Senate seat was not offered. I wonder who is telling the truth?

http://www.clarionledger.com/a…..d+mistress

]]> By: damagedone http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174491 damagedone Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:18:24 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/16/c-is-for-cheater/#comment-174491 <p>Reading over the complaint, Haley Barbour wanted to appoint Pickering to Trent Lott’s Senate seat. Wonder what Barbour knew and when he knew it? Seven John or Jane Does also mentioned as possible defendants. Wonder whether Mrs. Pickering was looking for a little ‘explaining from’ Coburn and the other C streeters?</p> Reading over the complaint, Haley Barbour wanted to appoint Pickering to Trent Lott’s Senate seat. Wonder what Barbour knew and when he knew it? Seven John or Jane Does also mentioned as possible defendants. Wonder whether Mrs. Pickering was looking for a little ‘explaining from’ Coburn and the other C streeters?

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