Comments on: US Government Covered Up War Crimes Committed by CIA’s Warlord

By: Mary

Mary — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:03:48 +0000

That hadn’t struck until your comment, but yeah, funny that, isn’t it?

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:58:50 +0000

Jeff Kaye @42 re: Physicians for Human Rights (PHR)

Thanks for calling our attention to this wonderful organization; it does important work and deserves our support.

Bob in HI

By: james

james — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:41:33 +0000

and as with everything else that cries out for accountability, Holder and Obama will do nothing, nothing at all.

And people will continue to defend this corporatist tool of a president as our country moves furhter and further away from anyone being held accountable for what was done i(and btw continues to be done) in our name.

By: timr

timr — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:05:01 +0000

I for one am unsurprised. We have done much worse, covered up things that our “allies” and “clients” did. The CIA has hidden what they did ever since they were founded in 1947. As Rumsfeld would say, we don’t even know what we don’t know. My experience was totally with another agency of the FedGov but stories were passed around, different aims of differing agencies often bumped heads-the left hand never told the right hand what it was doing-the CIA has in fact, at times, operated within the US which is against the law. We have many different intel agencies, the CIA was supposed to coordinate between them, instead we now have a whole new layer and a brand new office of intel that is supposed to be the ones in overall charge. My experience was that the CIA tended to throw money at people, their thinking has always been that you can always find someone who will turn for money, however one can get a lot of BS that way and it can be quite hard to insure that the facts are in fact the real facts and not just BS. We saw how that worked out during the bush years. False stories that were aimed directly at our world view and were taken as truth by both the CIA and our political masters. The biggest operation was Irans agent Chalabi and how Iran managed the US into deposing Saddam and changing Iraq-the most deadly enemy of Iran-into a close friend/client state. Intelligence, raw intel, is useless to the politicals and the political masters, but when they decided to bypass the analysts via the little office manned by feith in the pentagon, we were doomed to failure in the entire mideast. We do many things in the name of the US which, if known, would cause a real political firestorm. We have delt with people much much worse than those “allies” in Afghanistan. We have backed govts that tortured and killed their own people all in the name of containing communism. We continue to do the same, only now it is all in the name of containing terrorism. Remember this, countries have no friends only “interests” and our agents do things in our name that do not fall within our public value system. IOW, to our intel agencies “The ends justify the means” and while the rethugs imagine that TV is reality, the show 24 is not real. Reality is much much worse.

By: Nell

Nell — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:00:49 +0000

A military commander in the United States-led coalition rejected a request by a Red Cross official for an inquiry in late 2001, according to the official, who, in keeping with his organization’s policy, would speak only on condition of anonymity and declined to identify the commander.

A reporter of James Risen’s experience ought to be able to determine who that is, or at least lay out the rather small list of possibilities. Dan McNeill? Stanley McChrystal? David McKiernan? (OT: vivid illustration of Jim Webb’s Born Fighting…)

[@Gitcheegumee: You’re conflating two entirely separate Red Cross organizations and functions. The Red Cross has to maintain discretion to keep its access, and the RC official in question is almost certainly not part of the U.S. Red Cross. The raising and administration of disaster funds in the U.S. by the U.S. Red Cross is another kettle of fish altogether.]

By: sopranospinner

sopranospinner — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:57:40 +0000

I don’t want to invoke Godwin or anything, but in what way does this differ from cattle cars? I am so ashamed. Again.

By: applepie

applepie — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:42:21 +0000

Unfortunately this will probably become ‘much ado about nothing.’ The NY Times is reporting on it, on a off-news day, but the Pentagon and CIA conduct massacres and mass murder rather frequently. Remember Panama?

The killers are in our midst, as exampled by torgo’s flippant comment. And who will keep these monstrous id-focused types in check? Obama? No, I don’t think so. The wrenching changes that America has experienced under regressive Republican admins and compliant Democrats show that the only real hope for is with people like us and websites like this.

The endless war never ends, and the torturers never stopped, and the massacres continue.

I hope soon we can use this effective ‘whip’ tool to target legislators on issues of endless war and the monstrous anti-human behavior of the security apparatus in this militarist democracy.

It’s either that or else torgos regressive inhumanity will triumph.

By: Gitcheegumee

Gitcheegumee — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:33:48 +0000

@55

Would suffocation be a violation of Geneva,if this was perpetrated by those who are not subject to Genenva convention?

Ofcourse not.

And THAT’S the point.

Subcontract the dirty work to others.

Dead men tell no tales… they especially don’t tell the truth of the complicity by foreign governments with the Taliban.

They literally would or could not breath….a word to anyone about what they knew…ever again….just like Saddam.

By: frandor55

frandor55 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:32:48 +0000

Obama making sure we don’t find out. Who knows? Hard to dismiss tinfoil when there might be some pretty ugly stuff still not known.

By: GregB

GregB — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:24:21 +0000

It should be noted that Saddam was executed for ordering the deaths of 156 Iraqis.

-G