Comments on: CIA Sticks with Its Waterboarding Shiny Object Strategy http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: james http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172536 james Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:35:56 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172536 <p>Cheney’s Team B is, and always will be, Team B as constituted by George H. W. Bush when, as CIA Director, he formed a group within CIA that would be separate and apart from the career people already there, a group that consisted of people loyal to him and to people like Shackley, Morales, Phillips, and to the perjurer, Richard Helms.</p> Cheney’s Team B is, and always will be, Team B as constituted by George H. W. Bush when, as CIA Director, he formed a group within CIA that would be separate and apart from the career people already there, a group that consisted of people loyal to him and to people like Shackley, Morales, Phillips, and to the perjurer, Richard Helms.

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172154 Mary Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:07:11 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172154 <p>It’s kind of a Quantum filing, isn’t it? Who knew the DOJ had the ability to unfetter time, place and circumstance so effortlessly? </p> <p>I’m so glad ACLU specifically framed this issue</p> It’s kind of a Quantum filing, isn’t it? Who knew the DOJ had the ability to unfetter time, place and circumstance so effortlessly?

I’m so glad ACLU specifically framed this issue

]]> By: stryder http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172126 stryder Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:10:30 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172126 <p>exactly.<br /> Is there any wonder how they get away with this crap?</p> exactly.
Is there any wonder how they get away with this crap?

]]> By: Hmmm http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172117 Hmmm Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:13:58 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172117 <p>The logic is uncannily reminiscent of the odious argument that “If you’re doing it to inflict pain then sure, legally speaking it’s torture, but if you’re doing it to extract information, then legally it’s enhanced interrogation.”</p> The logic is uncannily reminiscent of the odious argument that “If you’re doing it to inflict pain then sure, legally speaking it’s torture, but if you’re doing it to extract information, then legally it’s enhanced interrogation.”

]]> By: stryder http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172110 stryder Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:49:09 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172110 <p>Here the gov is arguing that “they couldn’t be hiding a crime because they already revealed all this stuff”,when they could’ve said there was no crime and all this was classified for nat sec reasons and bring it all back on the olc</p> Here the gov is arguing that “they couldn’t be hiding a crime because they already revealed all this stuff”,when they could’ve said there was no crime and all this was classified for nat sec reasons and bring it all back on the olc

]]> By: Hmmm http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172105 Hmmm Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:28:35 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172105 <p>TMI!</p> TMI!

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172104 freepatriot Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:21:11 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172104 <p>leave my basement stash out of this</p> <p>(wink)</p> leave my basement stash out of this

(wink)

]]> By: MrWhy http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172101 MrWhy Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:14:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172101 <p>Hey, now! When I was buying, the Playboy Interviews were top notch. John Lennon, Jimmy Carter, etc.</p> Hey, now! When I was buying, the Playboy Interviews were top notch. John Lennon, Jimmy Carter, etc.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172095 emptywheel Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:56:12 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172095 <p>Ask Bob Schacht, though. I’m a typo queen today (though I’ve cleaned many of them up).</p> Ask Bob Schacht, though. I’m a typo queen today (though I’ve cleaned many of them up).

]]> By: alabama http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172094 alabama Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:54:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/10/cia-sticks-with-its-waterboarding-shiny-object-strategy/#comment-172094 <p>Well, this is a law, and laws have to affirm their status as “law”–i.e. as something breakable, the breaking of which is actionable. Classification is something entirely different: in principle, the American people use classification to keep other people, who are not nice, from stealing their laser-weapon inventions. If, however, it so happens that the folks who get the credit for the invention actually plagiarized the invention from some fellow citizens, then you have a problem: how can you keep the invention classified if you let the action proceed against the plagiarists? Which is where this blog comes into play: it merely reminds us of the law; unless I’m mistaken, it never argues against the principle of classification per se…..</p> Well, this is a law, and laws have to affirm their status as “law”–i.e. as something breakable, the breaking of which is actionable. Classification is something entirely different: in principle, the American people use classification to keep other people, who are not nice, from stealing their laser-weapon inventions. If, however, it so happens that the folks who get the credit for the invention actually plagiarized the invention from some fellow citizens, then you have a problem: how can you keep the invention classified if you let the action proceed against the plagiarists? Which is where this blog comes into play: it merely reminds us of the law; unless I’m mistaken, it never argues against the principle of classification per se…..

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