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	<title>Comments on: Final Decision: The Dignity Of Judge Karen Williams</title>
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		<title>By: JohnJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here in retirement county USA (St.Petersburg, FL) Alzheimer’s was more common than the Flu. The demographics have shifted, but when I first moved here there was at least one or two sufferers in any crowded store at any one time. I still seldom go a week without talking to someone with the disease. I had forgotten how shocking it is to those who don’t live around as many old folks as we do down here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our police emergency workers, and even bus drivers are trained (and usually experienced) in dealing with the victims. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Recently, a city bus driver I know had a woman get on the bus and asked to go to New York. They wound up getting the woman’s address from her purse and actually took her to her house (with dispatch’s permission) on the city bus, with full support of all the other passengers. (Much to the joy of her panicked care giver!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We not only have “Amber alerts” here, we have the same thing for lost Alzheimer’s people it is so common. I think they are called something like “Silver Alerts”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With that amount of familiarity with the disease there was a lively debate within the health care community here about how far gone Saint Ronny was while still President. There were many many signs that it affected much if his second term. I don’t remember the technical points, but it was interesting coming from people that worked with the disease 40+ hours a week.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in retirement county USA (St.Petersburg, FL) Alzheimer’s was more common than the Flu. The demographics have shifted, but when I first moved here there was at least one or two sufferers in any crowded store at any one time. I still seldom go a week without talking to someone with the disease. I had forgotten how shocking it is to those who don’t live around as many old folks as we do down here.</p>
<p>Our police emergency workers, and even bus drivers are trained (and usually experienced) in dealing with the victims. </p>
<p>Recently, a city bus driver I know had a woman get on the bus and asked to go to New York. They wound up getting the woman’s address from her purse and actually took her to her house (with dispatch’s permission) on the city bus, with full support of all the other passengers. (Much to the joy of her panicked care giver!)</p>
<p>We not only have “Amber alerts” here, we have the same thing for lost Alzheimer’s people it is so common. I think they are called something like “Silver Alerts”.</p>
<p>With that amount of familiarity with the disease there was a lively debate within the health care community here about how far gone Saint Ronny was while still President. There were many many signs that it affected much if his second term. I don’t remember the technical points, but it was interesting coming from people that worked with the disease 40+ hours a week.</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Bmaz.&lt;br /&gt;
Blessings to judge Williams and her family.  What a courageous lady to face this awful diagnosis and decide it’s best to step down. Just.  Wow.&lt;br /&gt;
FunnyWheelieDiva&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Bmaz.<br />
Blessings to judge Williams and her family.  What a courageous lady to face this awful diagnosis and decide it’s best to step down. Just.  Wow.<br />
FunnyWheelieDiva</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice catch.  As you say, the 4th Cir. is regarded as both the most conservative, executive power admiring circuit in the country and second only to the DC Circuit in importance, because of the cases it hears and its status as a farm team for likely Sup. Ct. nominees.  It’s an anchor tenant in the Right’s exclusive shopping mall.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with your prediction: the Right will fight harder over who will replace her than it will against Sotomayor’s nomination to the Sup. Ct.  Anyone appointed to her slot may tip the balance of power in this circuit and be a possible future Sup. Ct. nominee.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I applaud this judge’s decision to step down in the face of a heart wrenching diagnosis.  She preserves her opinions against challenge owing to her condition, and legitimately can say that she now needs to spend more time on herself and with her family.  It was the correct decision to make.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice catch.  As you say, the 4th Cir. is regarded as both the most conservative, executive power admiring circuit in the country and second only to the DC Circuit in importance, because of the cases it hears and its status as a farm team for likely Sup. Ct. nominees.  It’s an anchor tenant in the Right’s exclusive shopping mall.  </p>
<p>I agree with your prediction: the Right will fight harder over who will replace her than it will against Sotomayor’s nomination to the Sup. Ct.  Anyone appointed to her slot may tip the balance of power in this circuit and be a possible future Sup. Ct. nominee.</p>
<p>I applaud this judge’s decision to step down in the face of a heart wrenching diagnosis.  She preserves her opinions against challenge owing to her condition, and legitimately can say that she now needs to spend more time on herself and with her family.  It was the correct decision to make.</p>
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		<title>By: whitewidow</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitewidow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is heartbreaking.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And why do so many care facilities not allow married couples to be together? Hopefully that has changed somewhat since I became aware of that practice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I recently lost my MIL who had dementia for many years. So hard to watch someone disappear before your eyes. And so terrifying for her. It was a relief when she got to the stage of not remembering at all, because her anxiety and anger went away. She was very content her last few years, at least.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is heartbreaking.</p>
<p>And why do so many care facilities not allow married couples to be together? Hopefully that has changed somewhat since I became aware of that practice.</p>
<p>I recently lost my MIL who had dementia for many years. So hard to watch someone disappear before your eyes. And so terrifying for her. It was a relief when she got to the stage of not remembering at all, because her anxiety and anger went away. She was very content her last few years, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A worthwhile cinematic treatment of Alzheimers is the 2006 movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491747/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Away From Her&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, starring Julie Christie.  Her character, Fiona Anderson, is the flip side of the situation with former SCOTUS justice Sandra Day O’Connor’s husband: while in a care facility she develops a relationship with another patient and largely loses touch with her husband.  It’s a very complex and sensitive treatment of the subject.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A worthwhile cinematic treatment of Alzheimers is the 2006 movie <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491747/" rel="nofollow"><em>Away From Her</em></a>, starring Julie Christie.  Her character, Fiona Anderson, is the flip side of the situation with former SCOTUS justice Sandra Day O’Connor’s husband: while in a care facility she develops a relationship with another patient and largely loses touch with her husband.  It’s a very complex and sensitive treatment of the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice post.  As wrenching as the decision must have been, hopefully she will be able to surround herself with a lot less stress and a lot more calm.  You never know when they will have breakthroughs with Alzheimers.  Hopefully those breakthroughs will come soon and will make huge, positive changes for Judge Williams, her family and many, many others.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the 4th, it will be a battle.  Judges are always the battlefield and the 4th is bloody - so many defense contractor interests and other third party interests with megawatt power.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice post.  As wrenching as the decision must have been, hopefully she will be able to surround herself with a lot less stress and a lot more calm.  You never know when they will have breakthroughs with Alzheimers.  Hopefully those breakthroughs will come soon and will make huge, positive changes for Judge Williams, her family and many, many others.</p>
<p>For the 4th, it will be a battle.  Judges are always the battlefield and the 4th is bloody &#8211; so many defense contractor interests and other third party interests with megawatt power.</p>
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		<title>By: wavpeac</title>
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		<dc:creator>wavpeac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My grandfather was a doctor and educator. He had to make the same gut wrenching decision to quit his practice BEFORE he made any irreversible errors. It was so hard watching this brilliant man trying to distinguish between the leprechauns he thought he could seevand his first great grandson on the floor. I remember him coming to my mom and asking that we not leave the baby on the floor because he was having trouble being able to tell the difference between the baby and the leprechauns. He told her he knew he could squish the leprechauns but would not want to squish his great grandson. (my last visit with him before my grandmother stroked out and became disabled which meant that both grand parents had to go into a facility at the same time). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They were married for 60 years but lived the last 5 in separate wings of a hospital. We brought them together for their 60th, but they just stared at each other. Both got a tear. Grandpa said “I know you” over and over again to my Granny. My Granny just got so frustrated with the fact that half of her body and part of her brain would not work that it made her angry to see him. She said “I’ve had enough of him now”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was so sad. They had one of those marriages that many people envied. He was more than a successful doctor, teacher and researcher. She was a math teacher, basket ball coach and wife. Beautiful people both of them. It taught me a lot about love. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I learned that love is not about avoiding pain, but being willing to face it! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great post…hard disease…but as with everything on this earth, we can learn and grow from our experiences with these diseases.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather was a doctor and educator. He had to make the same gut wrenching decision to quit his practice BEFORE he made any irreversible errors. It was so hard watching this brilliant man trying to distinguish between the leprechauns he thought he could seevand his first great grandson on the floor. I remember him coming to my mom and asking that we not leave the baby on the floor because he was having trouble being able to tell the difference between the baby and the leprechauns. He told her he knew he could squish the leprechauns but would not want to squish his great grandson. (my last visit with him before my grandmother stroked out and became disabled which meant that both grand parents had to go into a facility at the same time). </p>
<p>They were married for 60 years but lived the last 5 in separate wings of a hospital. We brought them together for their 60th, but they just stared at each other. Both got a tear. Grandpa said “I know you” over and over again to my Granny. My Granny just got so frustrated with the fact that half of her body and part of her brain would not work that it made her angry to see him. She said “I’ve had enough of him now”. </p>
<p>It was so sad. They had one of those marriages that many people envied. He was more than a successful doctor, teacher and researcher. She was a math teacher, basket ball coach and wife. Beautiful people both of them. It taught me a lot about love. </p>
<p>I learned that love is not about avoiding pain, but being willing to face it! </p>
<p>Great post…hard disease…but as with everything on this earth, we can learn and grow from our experiences with these diseases.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is Fox News contributor Liz Trotta slamming Sarah&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is Fox News contributor Liz Trotta slamming Sarah<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;tough decision for Judge Williams… wise one&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bmaz“Obama will go out of his way to appoint worthless moderate schlubs.” Or with the way things are going line up with the Bush administration kind of choices&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tough decision for Judge Williams… wise one</p>
<p>Bmaz“Obama will go out of his way to appoint worthless moderate schlubs.” Or with the way things are going line up with the Bush administration kind of choices</p>
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		<title>By: JimWhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for finding this, bmaz.  We lost my MIL from Alzheimer’s, but she had other complications as well and didn’t linger in the altered mental state as long as many victims of this terrible disease.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also had never heard of Karen Williams but salute her and hope that she and her family can pack many good times into what time they have left together.  It’s been such a long time since I’ve seen someone place the law above personal ambition that this story really hit me hard.  We’ve lost so much in the 35 years since Ford pardoned Nixon and started the cascade of lawlessness.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding this, bmaz.  We lost my MIL from Alzheimer’s, but she had other complications as well and didn’t linger in the altered mental state as long as many victims of this terrible disease.</p>
<p>I also had never heard of Karen Williams but salute her and hope that she and her family can pack many good times into what time they have left together.  It’s been such a long time since I’ve seen someone place the law above personal ambition that this story really hit me hard.  We’ve lost so much in the 35 years since Ford pardoned Nixon and started the cascade of lawlessness.</p>
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