Comments on: Happy American Exceptionalism Day

By: runfastandwin

runfastandwin — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:13:10 +0000

You know why we celebrate Thanksgiving right? It’s the day Jesus discovered America…

By: Mary

Mary — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:40:33 +0000

I remeber it in bits and pieces from the parts that got in the news back then (no innnertubes) but I really enjoyed the link with some extra detail.

@68 it was more “on topic” than you would have thought, wasn’t it? I did think it fleshed out a detail that we haven’t heard much from other sources and that is that for each rendition victim, the field guy would first prepare an brief on them and the reasons they thought they were impportant and where they were going to take them and it was CIA (and sometimes NSC) LAWYERS who gave the express ok for each grab/rendition.

If that’s true, that sets up a pretty damn interesting situaton and I have to wonder to what extent those briefing papers and lawyers responses have been subject to any of the discovery requests outstanding or referenced in indexes as being not produced?

The bizarre assurances that no one had been kidnapped bc he was certain that lawyers would not have let them kidnap anyone, and that rendition to torture for Arar wasn’t a big deal even if he wasn’t al Qaeda bc he was probably anti-American, just gets more disturbing every time you go back to it

By: Public

Public — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:49:53 +0000

So let me make sure that I’ve got this right…if a daily reader of this site wants to express his opinions on Independence Day it’s OK, as long as he doesn’t bring up 911….the most important & defining event of our time. Don’t you find that at all strange?? If someone just mentions 911….or even worse has a question about the Official Story, then they’re immediately unwelcome and their intelligence is questioned. As someone who follows the news very closely, I find it pretty laughable that educated people like yourselves still believe the Bush-Zelikow story, after all that has surfaced about the Bush Administration and their endless lies. You might also have noticed that there has been no open discussion about that day since it happened. Not allowed in America!! What is it that your so afraid of? Could it be the truth that frightens you. Lastly, thanks bmaz for your warm welcome and that uppity tone. It’s good to know that OUR country is in the hands of such smart people.

By: skdadl

skdadl — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:52:53 +0000

Belated and epu’d, but: That transcript was suddenly right on topic when Scheuer first said that he wasn’t a lawyer so it wasn’t his job to know (what torture is, eg), and then, when Nadler raised the question of rendered persons who turn out to be innocent, said that they weren’t Americans so why should he care.

I’m very much a Delahunt and Nadler fan, but I thought they were ‘way too courtly to him, perhaps because he also takes positions they agree with. He sure chilled me to the bone.

By: Gunner

Gunner — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:25:33 +0000

Better said thank you bmaz!

By: bmaz

bmaz — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:17:17 +0000

There are any number of sites that specialize in the discussion you crave; find one. This isn’t it. And having you wander in here to tell Marcy or anyone else what we don’t know is somewhat beyond laughable. We do not come to your home, call you ignorant on subjects, and demand you discuss things you do not wish to discuss; why in the world do you think it appropriate to do that to us?

By: Quebecois

Quebecois — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:42:22 +0000

Marcy, merci for all you’ve done. Most of my american friends feel about the same you do, the idea of celebrating is also affexting their humeur and humour.

By: Gunner

Gunner — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:43:59 +0000

Fair enough, I am not sure if she does or does not but I think she has her hands full with what she is very good at and can,t cover everything as bmaz said there are other places that do have time for 9/11

By: Public

Public — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:33:48 +0000

I know Marcy is very bright. I’ve been following her for years. What I’m saying is she doesn’t know anything about 911.

By: Gunner

Gunner — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:22:57 +0000

Look Public, I have not seen you around here much Marcy knows her stuff big time. she is brillant. I have read enough at this site to know. so cut the shit man, Oh freep just doin the freep,s job