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	<title>Comments on: The Backstory of Sanford &amp; Sonnets Is Dribbling Out</title>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/the-backstory-of-sanford-sonnets-is-dribbling-out/comment-page-1/#comment-169105</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think “moving to the left” in South Carolina is akin to someone moving from hanging on to the cliff by his/her fingernails —-&gt; hanging on by the tips of his/her fingers, or perhaps palm of the hand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those guys are so far to the right . . . .  Well, you finish the sentence.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think “moving to the left” in South Carolina is akin to someone moving from hanging on to the cliff by his/her fingernails —-&gt; hanging on by the tips of his/her fingers, or perhaps palm of the hand.</p>
<p>Those guys are so far to the right . . . .  Well, you finish the sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rayne,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sanford is a dead issue except that the powers that be might keep him around to keep the Lt Gov from getting a head start on the next Governor’s election.  Granted I too have thought he was an idiot for some time, but he was still a “southern idiot.”  As for the House, he was in it for 6 years and quit to prepare for a run at the Governor’s job.  Possibly he would have gone back to it, but I doubt it.  No he would have probably ended up working for either a Republican or a Democratic President in some position but that was before he showed his a*** so badly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you are saying Sen Graham is in peril, well he is an acquaintance of mine, has been in my mom’s house, and there have been rumours about him, especially on the progressive blogs, but I think he is safe barring a heretofore unknown scandal.  A scandal can bring most anyone down if it is great enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite spending 31 years in the Navy and another 5 or 6 as a civilian on one ocean or another, I am still a born and bred South Carolinian and I can only chuckle at what you said.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayne,</p>
<p>Sanford is a dead issue except that the powers that be might keep him around to keep the Lt Gov from getting a head start on the next Governor’s election.  Granted I too have thought he was an idiot for some time, but he was still a “southern idiot.”  As for the House, he was in it for 6 years and quit to prepare for a run at the Governor’s job.  Possibly he would have gone back to it, but I doubt it.  No he would have probably ended up working for either a Republican or a Democratic President in some position but that was before he showed his a*** so badly.</p>
<p>If you are saying Sen Graham is in peril, well he is an acquaintance of mine, has been in my mom’s house, and there have been rumours about him, especially on the progressive blogs, but I think he is safe barring a heretofore unknown scandal.  A scandal can bring most anyone down if it is great enough.</p>
<p>Despite spending 31 years in the Navy and another 5 or 6 as a civilian on one ocean or another, I am still a born and bred South Carolinian and I can only chuckle at what you said.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hiya VG, my emailaddy is *c*4*2*c*h @ *h*o*t*m*a*i*l*d*o*t*c*o*m.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The mods can also give you my e-mail, esp if it’s TLM or RBG … I think they are more familiar with me than they’d care to be … *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya VG, my emailaddy is *c*4*2*c*h @ *h*o*t*m*a*i*l*d*o*t*c*o*m.</p>
<p>The mods can also give you my e-mail, esp if it’s TLM or RBG … I think they are more familiar with me than they’d care to be … *g*</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nope. I’m not kidding, Gerald. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why is the legislature vetoing Sanford so much, and on what? Let’s start there and pick it apart.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Granted, change isn’t something which happens over night, good gods don’t I know it. I became an activist to volunteer for Howard Dean’s campaign in 2003, and during the last six years it’s seemed like we’ve been walking through molasses on a January day. Worse yet, we are far from done as Obama’s moderate positions have demonstrated; we have a very long way to go before we become a truly progressive nation again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the change comes with seizing opportunities as they arise. Sanford is one of them, and frankly, he has been for sometime but those of us outside SC didn’t know it. Where was Sanford going to go next in terms of holding office? Seriously, where? I’ve yet to read anything which suggested there was a House slot at which he could aim, and his name has been bandied about for a run at POTUS for some time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s at least one compromised member of the Senate in SC as well, only one big misstep or a past misstep which could be revealed and the senior Senate seat would be open to primary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And there’s 18 months to two years to shake this out, that’s enough time to make real change happen on the ground as it did this last two years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hell yeah I’m serious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. I’m not kidding, Gerald. </p>
<p>Why is the legislature vetoing Sanford so much, and on what? Let’s start there and pick it apart.</p>
<p>Granted, change isn’t something which happens over night, good gods don’t I know it. I became an activist to volunteer for Howard Dean’s campaign in 2003, and during the last six years it’s seemed like we’ve been walking through molasses on a January day. Worse yet, we are far from done as Obama’s moderate positions have demonstrated; we have a very long way to go before we become a truly progressive nation again.</p>
<p>But the change comes with seizing opportunities as they arise. Sanford is one of them, and frankly, he has been for sometime but those of us outside SC didn’t know it. Where was Sanford going to go next in terms of holding office? Seriously, where? I’ve yet to read anything which suggested there was a House slot at which he could aim, and his name has been bandied about for a run at POTUS for some time.</p>
<p>There’s at least one compromised member of the Senate in SC as well, only one big misstep or a past misstep which could be revealed and the senior Senate seat would be open to primary.</p>
<p>And there’s 18 months to two years to shake this out, that’s enough time to make real change happen on the ground as it did this last two years.</p>
<p>Hell yeah I’m serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rayne, you are kidding, aren’t you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rayne, you are kidding, aren’t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/28/the-backstory-of-sanford-sonnets-is-dribbling-out/comment-page-1/#comment-169054</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Which also says something about the legislature in that state, must be feeling pressure to move to the left.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And which also says something about Graham/DeMint: they can’t afford to be primaried by someone like Sanford if he has nowhere else to move up the foodchain, because a third and more moderate candidate might win or a Dem might win after an ugly primary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know, I think this is an opportunity to double-down on spending for progressive candidates in that state. Wonder what the pipeline looks like for candidates on the left?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which also says something about the legislature in that state, must be feeling pressure to move to the left.</p>
<p>And which also says something about Graham/DeMint: they can’t afford to be primaried by someone like Sanford if he has nowhere else to move up the foodchain, because a third and more moderate candidate might win or a Dem might win after an ugly primary.</p>
<p>You know, I think this is an opportunity to double-down on spending for progressive candidates in that state. Wonder what the pipeline looks like for candidates on the left?</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They also had an associate in Argentina look up Maria.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also had an associate in Argentina look up Maria.</p>
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		<title>By: esseff44</title>
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		<dc:creator>esseff44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’s the lamest of lame ducks if he stays. Last week, the state legislature overrode ten of his vetoes in one day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’s the lamest of lame ducks if he stays. Last week, the state legislature overrode ten of his vetoes in one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps they don’t have anybody ready to primary Ensign? That’d be my guess as to why he’s not getting the same treatment as Sanford.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I’ll further guess that there wasn’t anybody to whom Ensign posed a political threat, unlike Lindsey Graham or Jim DeMint…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps they don’t have anybody ready to primary Ensign? That’d be my guess as to why he’s not getting the same treatment as Sanford.</p>
<p>And I’ll further guess that there wasn’t anybody to whom Ensign posed a political threat, unlike Lindsey Graham or Jim DeMint…</p>
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		<title>By: esseff44</title>
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		<dc:creator>esseff44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Sunday Morning talking heads wrote him off as well as far as 2012.  Ensign didn’t make quite the spectacle of himself that Sanford did at his teary confessionial news conference.  He didn’t compare himself to King David. He didn’t leave a state government without an official  decider for a week. Sanford story has more of a lingering soap opera and suspense drama that will keep the press covering it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The State just put out another story saying the SC GOP leadership is going to ask for Sanford’s resignation next week. The pattern seems to be that Governors have to resign (Blogo, Spitzer, Sanford) but Senators get to stay (Ensign, Vitter, Burris, Craig).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sunday Morning talking heads wrote him off as well as far as 2012.  Ensign didn’t make quite the spectacle of himself that Sanford did at his teary confessionial news conference.  He didn’t compare himself to King David. He didn’t leave a state government without an official  decider for a week. Sanford story has more of a lingering soap opera and suspense drama that will keep the press covering it. </p>
<p>The State just put out another story saying the SC GOP leadership is going to ask for Sanford’s resignation next week. The pattern seems to be that Governors have to resign (Blogo, Spitzer, Sanford) but Senators get to stay (Ensign, Vitter, Burris, Craig).</p>
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