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	<title>Comments on: Jello Jay Rockefeller on the Public Option</title>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168909</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nobody is asking you to back down; I am asking that you be less of an irritant.  I appreciate what you have to say, but nobody here owes you a discussion on your terms.  Again, you and your views, whether they coincide with the greater group or not, are welcome and appreciated; repetitiveness to the point of annoyance because you do not get what you want, is not.  It is not particularly attractive either.  Personally I think you have points that ought to be part of the discussion and are valuable; it is a shame that you lose them in an effort to shout at the moon.  why don’t you try engaging in a more productive manner; you might actually like it.  Have a good flight.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody is asking you to back down; I am asking that you be less of an irritant.  I appreciate what you have to say, but nobody here owes you a discussion on your terms.  Again, you and your views, whether they coincide with the greater group or not, are welcome and appreciated; repetitiveness to the point of annoyance because you do not get what you want, is not.  It is not particularly attractive either.  Personally I think you have points that ought to be part of the discussion and are valuable; it is a shame that you lose them in an effort to shout at the moon.  why don’t you try engaging in a more productive manner; you might actually like it.  Have a good flight.</p>
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		<title>By: DLoerke</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168908</link>
		<dc:creator>DLoerke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But I’m sure you’ll all be thrilled that I’m flying home today and will be off the air for at least most of the day…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I’m sure you’ll all be thrilled that I’m flying home today and will be off the air for at least most of the day…</p>
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		<title>By: DLoerke</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168907</link>
		<dc:creator>DLoerke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am trying to get a debate on this monstrous health care and climate change tax.  I can’t afford it.  It would appear like the climate debate, it appears that you all wish to Soviet-style cut off debate.  I am NOT trying to disrupt threads…I am trying to open a left-right debate to make better policy.  But some folks like to call names and I refuse to back down because people wave the “troll” word…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to get a debate on this monstrous health care and climate change tax.  I can’t afford it.  It would appear like the climate debate, it appears that you all wish to Soviet-style cut off debate.  I am NOT trying to disrupt threads…I am trying to open a left-right debate to make better policy.  But some folks like to call names and I refuse to back down because people wave the “troll” word…</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168906</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Listen, people here are aware of your opinion, why don’t you find something new to carp about, this repetitive tripe out of you is getting annoying.  We try to have a free and open forum here for intelligent conversation.  I am willing to grant your first couple of missives on this, but you are now on about you 90th.  Give it a rest.  You, like everyone, are welcome to share your opinion and thoughts; you are not, however, welcome to disrupt threads because you enjoy seeing yourself portrayed as a broken record.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen, people here are aware of your opinion, why don’t you find something new to carp about, this repetitive tripe out of you is getting annoying.  We try to have a free and open forum here for intelligent conversation.  I am willing to grant your first couple of missives on this, but you are now on about you 90th.  Give it a rest.  You, like everyone, are welcome to share your opinion and thoughts; you are not, however, welcome to disrupt threads because you enjoy seeing yourself portrayed as a broken record.</p>
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		<title>By: DLoerke</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168905</link>
		<dc:creator>DLoerke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A very simple answer.  The USA realizes we have the right to life, liberty, and property.  NOT the faux “right” to have someone else pay for my health care.  Any more than a faux right to eat…or a faux right for the latest computer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very simple answer.  The USA realizes we have the right to life, liberty, and property.  NOT the faux “right” to have someone else pay for my health care.  Any more than a faux right to eat…or a faux right for the latest computer.</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168899</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The questions our healthcare debate ignores&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Why does every developed nation except the U.S. have universal healthcare? Why do they pay half as much in medical costs? Why are their infant mortality and longevity statistics superior?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By Joe Conason&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘But perhaps any discussion of healthcare in the developed world ought to begin with a plain fact noted early in this study: Among the OECD’s 30 members — which include Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, the Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom — there are only three lacking universal health coverage. The other two happen to be Mexico and Turkey, which have the excuse of being poorer than the rest (and until the onset of the world economic crisis, Mexico was on the way to providing healthcare to all of its citizens). The third, of course, is us.’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/03/09/healthcare/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/c.....index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The questions our healthcare debate ignores</strong><br />
Why does every developed nation except the U.S. have universal healthcare? Why do they pay half as much in medical costs? Why are their infant mortality and longevity statistics superior?</p>
<p>By Joe Conason</p>
<p>‘But perhaps any discussion of healthcare in the developed world ought to begin with a plain fact noted early in this study: Among the OECD’s 30 members — which include Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, the Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom — there are only three lacking universal health coverage. The other two happen to be Mexico and Turkey, which have the excuse of being poorer than the rest (and until the onset of the world economic crisis, Mexico was on the way to providing healthcare to all of its citizens). The third, of course, is us.’</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/03/09/healthcare/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/c&#8230;..index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: eggroll</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168896</link>
		<dc:creator>eggroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The insurance business: collect premiums + deny claims = sweet profitability.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that’s something any REAL American should fight for. And Congress people, please continue to ignore the Finnish model of health care. The last thing Americans want is a system that covers everybody, has superior outcomes, produces healthier infants and mothers, costs 40% less per capita, and respects doctors. In fact, maybe Max Baucus, a Stanford-educated lawyer, could write-up some legislation that requires every American to go around in public with a piece of paper taped to their backs that says “Kick me, I’m an American.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insurance business: collect premiums + deny claims = sweet profitability.</p>
<p>Now that’s something any REAL American should fight for. And Congress people, please continue to ignore the Finnish model of health care. The last thing Americans want is a system that covers everybody, has superior outcomes, produces healthier infants and mothers, costs 40% less per capita, and respects doctors. In fact, maybe Max Baucus, a Stanford-educated lawyer, could write-up some legislation that requires every American to go around in public with a piece of paper taped to their backs that says “Kick me, I’m an American.”</p>
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		<title>By: DLoerke</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168891</link>
		<dc:creator>DLoerke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Like MSNBC hasn’t?  Those are technical glitches that happen to all of them…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like MSNBC hasn’t?  Those are technical glitches that happen to all of them…</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168890</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where’s freep when we need him?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where’s freep when we need him?</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/27/jello-jay-rockefeller-on-the-public-option/#comment-168889</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ain’t no such thing on Faux News. (How many times have they ‘accidentally’ turned Rs into Ds already?)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ain’t no such thing on Faux News. (How many times have they ‘accidentally’ turned Rs into Ds already?)</p>
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