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	<title>Comments on: Why Was the White House Searching for Plame-Wilson-Novak Emails Dated May 1, 2003?</title>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay–I figured out what this search was a response to: Novak gave a depoisition on September 14, 2004, so the dates must have come from him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really critical on two counts. July 7, 2003 is included in is–which means, after this deposition, Fitz ahd some reason to believe Novak emailed the White House on July7. But July 9 is not in there–which means Novak was still hiding his meeting with Libby at which–almost certainly–Libby gave him the name Plame, the counterproliferation, and the Niger minister info.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay–I figured out what this search was a response to: Novak gave a depoisition on September 14, 2004, so the dates must have come from him.</p>
<p>Really critical on two counts. July 7, 2003 is included in is–which means, after this deposition, Fitz ahd some reason to believe Novak emailed the White House on July7. But July 9 is not in there–which means Novak was still hiding his meeting with Libby at which–almost certainly–Libby gave him the name Plame, the counterproliferation, and the Niger minister info.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so, uhm, we got an email search for Valeri Plame a day before the kristof column ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why would that be ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wilson spoke out in December, the IWHG met in March&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it all fits&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but we already knew that&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, uhm, we got an email search for Valeri Plame a day before the kristof column ???</p>
<p>why would that be ???</p>
<p>Wilson spoke out in December, the IWHG met in March</p>
<p>it all fits</p>
<p>it’s a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States</p>
<p>but we already knew that</p>
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		<title>By: Jkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ohhhh..how very elegant that will be … &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhhh..how very elegant that will be … </p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, shit.  My damn tinfoil hat is getting too small and too thin.  I need about 4 sizes bigger, and about 2 feet thicker.  It’s been well over a year (maybe two…?) since I’ve developed the gut sense that behind the Plame outing must lie some terrifying, ghastly tale of black market nukes mafia, mixed up with sundry and assorted warlords, government officials, and punks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s where I start to look first — the &lt;a href=&quot;http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/timeline-collection/the-ghorbanifar-meetings-timeline/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ghorbanifar Timeline.&lt;/a&gt;  And just prior to 1 May, and continuing on, we see:  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;March 18, 2003:&lt;/strong&gt; Rosen leaks details of policy document to WaPo’s Michael Dobbs, saying “I’m not supposed to know this”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;April 2003:&lt;/strong&gt; Iran proposes re-establishing relations; US rejects proposal because Iranian government “on the verge of collapse”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;May 3, 2003&lt;/strong&gt;: US and Iran in negotiations in Geneva&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;May 7, 2003:&lt;/strong&gt; Rhode apparently stages “find” of anti-Israel materials in Iraq (and uranium document) with Ahmed Chalabi; Judy Miller reports it&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Late May, 2003&lt;/strong&gt;: Ledeen sends new letter outlining Ghorbanifar plan to Feith, including promise of finding “Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that had been moved to Iran”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And then I note that Fitz didn’t do the search until Sept 2004. So then, I figure it’s worth looking at the Ghorbanifar Timeline for that period of time, and lookee here: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;August 27, 2004:&lt;/strong&gt; Rosen and Weissman interviewed by FBI; Rosen warns Israeli of investigation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;August 27, 2004:&lt;/strong&gt; News of AIPAC investigation leaked; Paul McNulty put in charge of case&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;August 29-20, 2004:&lt;/strong&gt; Feith, Luti, Rodman interviewed about whether they had authorized Franklin’s leaks to AIPAC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;September-October 2004:&lt;/strong&gt; Through Michael Ledeen’s intercession, Plato Cacheris agrees to represent Franklin pro bono&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do I understand what all of these things mean?&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
Do I think that they are somehow connected? Absolutely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Call me a nutcase, but I doubt the place to look is in D.C.&lt;br /&gt;
The strongest ‘nodes’ seem to involve something that Franklin was involved in, and Hadley would have wanted to be in the loop, no doubt. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d love to be wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
But for the present, I’m ordering a newer, shinier, thicker tinfoil hat.  I’m thinking of adding a feathered boa or two, just for the sake of added elegance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, shit.  My damn tinfoil hat is getting too small and too thin.  I need about 4 sizes bigger, and about 2 feet thicker.  It’s been well over a year (maybe two…?) since I’ve developed the gut sense that behind the Plame outing must lie some terrifying, ghastly tale of black market nukes mafia, mixed up with sundry and assorted warlords, government officials, and punks.</p>
<p>Here’s where I start to look first — the <a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/timeline-collection/the-ghorbanifar-meetings-timeline/" rel="nofollow">Ghorbanifar Timeline.</a>  And just prior to 1 May, and continuing on, we see:  </p>
<blockquote><p><strong>March 18, 2003:</strong> Rosen leaks details of policy document to WaPo’s Michael Dobbs, saying “I’m not supposed to know this”</p>
<p><strong>April 2003:</strong> Iran proposes re-establishing relations; US rejects proposal because Iranian government “on the verge of collapse”</p>
<p><strong>May 3, 2003</strong>: US and Iran in negotiations in Geneva</p>
<p><strong>May 7, 2003:</strong> Rhode apparently stages “find” of anti-Israel materials in Iraq (and uranium document) with Ahmed Chalabi; Judy Miller reports it</p>
<p><strong>Late May, 2003</strong>: Ledeen sends new letter outlining Ghorbanifar plan to Feith, including promise of finding “Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that had been moved to Iran”</p>
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<p>And then I note that Fitz didn’t do the search until Sept 2004. So then, I figure it’s worth looking at the Ghorbanifar Timeline for that period of time, and lookee here: </p>
<blockquote><p>
<strong>August 27, 2004:</strong> Rosen and Weissman interviewed by FBI; Rosen warns Israeli of investigation</p>
<p><strong>August 27, 2004:</strong> News of AIPAC investigation leaked; Paul McNulty put in charge of case</p>
<p><strong>August 29-20, 2004:</strong> Feith, Luti, Rodman interviewed about whether they had authorized Franklin’s leaks to AIPAC</p>
<p><strong>September-October 2004:</strong> Through Michael Ledeen’s intercession, Plato Cacheris agrees to represent Franklin pro bono</p>
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<p>Do I understand what all of these things mean?<br />
No.<br />
Do I think that they are somehow connected? Absolutely.</p>
<p>Call me a nutcase, but I doubt the place to look is in D.C.<br />
The strongest ‘nodes’ seem to involve something that Franklin was involved in, and Hadley would have wanted to be in the loop, no doubt. </p>
<p>I’d love to be wrong.<br />
But for the present, I’m ordering a newer, shinier, thicker tinfoil hat.  I’m thinking of adding a feathered boa or two, just for the sake of added elegance.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect it has to do with Novak–that is, I think they figured out some dates to check for Novak contacts with the White House, but that this was before they knew about the 7/9 conversation. So Novak may have had earlier conversations…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect it has to do with Novak–that is, I think they figured out some dates to check for Novak contacts with the White House, but that this was before they knew about the 7/9 conversation. So Novak may have had earlier conversations…</p>
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		<title>By: tryggth</title>
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		<dc:creator>tryggth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One fun fact about May 1 is you always know how many days ago it was via KO in his sign-off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only other thing I found from a little searching is it was also the day JudyJudyJudy outed a possible CIA asset, Saad Janabi. But it doesn’t make much sense to search WH emails on the day of the article publication.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One fun fact about May 1 is you always know how many days ago it was via KO in his sign-off.</p>
<p>Only other thing I found from a little searching is it was also the day JudyJudyJudy outed a possible CIA asset, Saad Janabi. But it doesn’t make much sense to search WH emails on the day of the article publication.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I borrowed WO’s brain for the tech side of this. SO he deserves much of the credit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I borrowed WO’s brain for the tech side of this. SO he deserves much of the credit.</p>
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		<title>By: sojourner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sojourner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK…this is off the wall but I have to wonder about something. There was an anonymous poster who kept showing up and spouting stuff about technology on several different threads. One of the subjects this poster commented on was Microsoft Sharepoint, which is very adaptable to support specific programs/projects. In other words, it sounds very similar to Greenstone in some ways. Could the Whitehouse / RNC also have been using Greenstone or Sharepoint? Just a thought…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK…this is off the wall but I have to wonder about something. There was an anonymous poster who kept showing up and spouting stuff about technology on several different threads. One of the subjects this poster commented on was Microsoft Sharepoint, which is very adaptable to support specific programs/projects. In other words, it sounds very similar to Greenstone in some ways. Could the Whitehouse / RNC also have been using Greenstone or Sharepoint? Just a thought…</p>
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		<title>By: ffein</title>
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		<dc:creator>ffein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Could it be this open source software: “Greenstone is a software suite which can serve digital library collections and build new collections. It runs on Windows, UNIX and Mac OS X and provides a new way of organising information and publishing it on the internet or on CD-ROM. Greenstone is produced by the New Zealand Digital Library Project at the University of Waikato, and distributed in cooperation with Unesco and the Human Info NGO. It is a open source software. The New Zealand Digital Library website contains numerous example collections, all created with the Greenstone software.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be this open source software: “Greenstone is a software suite which can serve digital library collections and build new collections. It runs on Windows, UNIX and Mac OS X and provides a new way of organising information and publishing it on the internet or on CD-ROM. Greenstone is produced by the New Zealand Digital Library Project at the University of Waikato, and distributed in cooperation with Unesco and the Human Info NGO. It is a open source software. The New Zealand Digital Library website contains numerous example collections, all created with the Greenstone software.”</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s another question. Sandwiched between searches of the NSC email for Hadley’s email and the (Plame Wilson Novak) searches are searches for (greenstone). WTF is greenstone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s another question. Sandwiched between searches of the NSC email for Hadley’s email and the (Plame Wilson Novak) searches are searches for (greenstone). WTF is greenstone?</p>
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