Comments on: CIA Now Reviewing OPR Report on Yoo, Bybee, and Bradbury

By: Leen

Leen — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:51:49 +0000

“reviewing OPR report” will Bradbury, Yoo or Bybee be in the room for the review? (just kidding) Which meeting was it that Bradbury was able to have input during a recent review or was it “memos”?

By: kgb999

kgb999 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:33:33 +0000

I’ve been saying for months that the CIA may have knowingly submitted false information to OLC. It may be that John Yoo and Jay Bybee used that as their excuse for their crappy opinions. Maybe, if this report ever comes out, we’ll get to see whether that’s the case.

The CIA wasn’t the only one pushing for these techniques. The DoD started looking into using the JPRA resources offensively as early as Sept. 2001. There were at least two other groups trained by JPRA before or at about the same time as the Abu Zubaydah CIA team. There are some pretty clear hints that waterboarding happened in Afghanistan before it came to Gitmo.

The OLC knew exactly what they were being asked for and the CIA was not the only source of information they used to make their decisions. For example, on the day (Jul 24, 2002) the OLC verbally approved “some techniques” for use on Abu Zubaydah, Haynes pressed JPRA for documentation on their training programs and Ogrisseg’s report on long-term effects of waterboarding was produced. Haynes spends the next two days getting documentation together from the JPRA that the OLC used to verbally approve the worst techniques on the 26th and produce the Bybee Memos on Aug 1.

IMO, the military likely tortured more people than the CIA. They were a major driving force behind these authorizations.

By: FromCt

FromCt — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:24:33 +0000

Anybody YET willing to even consider demanding an intiation of an impeachment investigation of Obama’s obstruction/complicity….?

Glenn’s columns on wednesday speaks not only to the congressional democratic caucus:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....index.html
“House Democrats prioritize loyalty to the president over their own judgment”

and…
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....index.html
“Obama and transparency: judge for yourself”

Am I the only one who sees how we should be reacting to Obama’s flagrant betrayal of the presidential oath? Is your hope for the passage into law of Obama’s key domestic legislative objectives, worth what has to be ignored or minimized, related to his apparent refusal to uphold the law?

By: prairiedaag

prairiedaag — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:42:23 +0000

First Holder quote should say OPR, not OLC.

By: Jkat

Jkat — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:39:25 +0000

OT ..but .. some corporations are trying to keep their flight records secret .. AND ..

oh hell .. when ya gets to the bottom of it ..it’s somehow going to be related to rendition flights ..i think ..

it’s one of those news stories that make ya go hmmmmmmmm

By: acquarius74

acquarius74 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:20:42 +0000

Thanks for this post, Marcy, especially the clip. Don’t you know the weasel witnesses like Holder hate to come under his guns? Perfect preparation, perfect recall, perfect delivery, and documented facts like bullets that can’t be dodged. IMO we should draft him for pres in 2012. Others say that he is too badly needed in the senate; that’s true, but it’s pretty well in the old one-holer already except for him, Feingold, Durbin and Sanders.

By: acquarius74

acquarius74 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:05:59 +0000

Yes, Mary. And what about Mark Swanner, the CIA agent/interrogator who killed Jamadi (the Iceman) among the photos in the leaked Abu Ghraib group. The CIA even investigated him and referred his case to DOJ for their appropriate action. That was 2004 – 5 years and no action on the case and the last article I read he was still working for CIA. I guess Panetta just closed the door on that since it happened in the past…nothing here to see, move along.

By: acquarius74

acquarius74 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:55:13 +0000

Thank you, drational, for that fine, very informative diary. Comments there also are exceptional. I must find time to visit dkos more often.

By: emptywheel

emptywheel — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:25:19 +0000

Btw, I’ve updated the post with a YouTube of this exchange.

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:44:51 +0000

Can’t have that “lending succour” to the enemy that would result from telling the truth, can we?