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	<title>Comments on: American Heroes, American Union Members</title>
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		<title>By: DICKERSON3870</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165441</link>
		<dc:creator>DICKERSON3870</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;$30 BILLION FOR ISRAEL OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NO MONEY FOR BULLETPROOF VESTS FOR THE GUARDS AT THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AND I DON’T GIVE A TINKER’S DAMN THAT THE GUARDS ARE TECHNICALLY EMPLOYED BY THE DANISH-OWNED WACKENHUT* CORP THAT CONTRACTED WITH THE MUSEUM. I ASSUME THAT THE ‘COST SAVINGS’ WERE DIVVIED UP.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*THE EUROPEAN EQUIVALENT OF HALIBURTON/KBR/BLACKWATER!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$30 BILLION FOR ISRAEL OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS</p>
<p>NO MONEY FOR BULLETPROOF VESTS FOR THE GUARDS AT THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM!</p>
<p>AND I DON’T GIVE A TINKER’S DAMN THAT THE GUARDS ARE TECHNICALLY EMPLOYED BY THE DANISH-OWNED WACKENHUT* CORP THAT CONTRACTED WITH THE MUSEUM. I ASSUME THAT THE ‘COST SAVINGS’ WERE DIVVIED UP.</p>
<p>*THE EUROPEAN EQUIVALENT OF HALIBURTON/KBR/BLACKWATER!</p>
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		<title>By: SqueakyRat</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165237</link>
		<dc:creator>SqueakyRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Last I heard, Von Brunn used a .22 rifle. Ever consider what that stuff in your fantasy life might mean, Hackworth?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last I heard, Von Brunn used a .22 rifle. Ever consider what that stuff in your fantasy life might mean, Hackworth?</p>
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		<title>By: Poicephalus</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165226</link>
		<dc:creator>Poicephalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What foothillsmike said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it doesn’t take MILSPEC body armour to stop a low-velocity round.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If only someone would have listened to the Union.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What foothillsmike said.</p>
<p>And it doesn’t take MILSPEC body armour to stop a low-velocity round.</p>
<p>If only someone would have listened to the Union.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165210</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unions created our middle class.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ew thank you for bringing our attention to this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Praying for the family of the guard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris Matthews was kind of pointing the finger or complicity in these radicla killings at Sarah Palin and her inflammatory rhetoric&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unions created our middle class.</p>
<p>Ew thank you for bringing our attention to this.</p>
<p>Praying for the family of the guard.</p>
<p>Chris Matthews was kind of pointing the finger or complicity in these radicla killings at Sarah Palin and her inflammatory rhetoric</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, and it could have easily been aimed low or high to miss the vest had he been wearing one.  At point blank range from a 12 gauge, and either choice or a center mass shot would have been fatal.  Interesting that the second trained union guard used restraint and that the assailant was only incapacitated (though he may not survive his head wound).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vests would help, but this is a cultural issue as well as a tactical one, one reason the Reichwingers are out in battalions claiming this is an isolated, crazy lone gunman.  Where have we heard that before?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Violent extremism is built into the species; a few will always relent to its urgings.  What we might change is the status of a media that extols its virtues.  The rewards of social validation and acceptance broadcast by Fox Noise, Limbaugh, Beck, Operation Rescue [sic] and their ilk fully compete with the imaginary virgins offered to other extremists.  We should isolate and restrain our own before we arrogate to ourselves the right to teach others how to do it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, and it could have easily been aimed low or high to miss the vest had he been wearing one.  At point blank range from a 12 gauge, and either choice or a center mass shot would have been fatal.  Interesting that the second trained union guard used restraint and that the assailant was only incapacitated (though he may not survive his head wound).  </p>
<p>Vests would help, but this is a cultural issue as well as a tactical one, one reason the Reichwingers are out in battalions claiming this is an isolated, crazy lone gunman.  Where have we heard that before?  </p>
<p>Violent extremism is built into the species; a few will always relent to its urgings.  What we might change is the status of a media that extols its virtues.  The rewards of social validation and acceptance broadcast by Fox Noise, Limbaugh, Beck, Operation Rescue [sic] and their ilk fully compete with the imaginary virgins offered to other extremists.  We should isolate and restrain our own before we arrogate to ourselves the right to teach others how to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165184</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scarecrow’s diary promoted!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5712&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Surprise! AMA Wants to Shield Insurance/Pharma (and Doctors) from Public Plan Competition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarecrow’s diary promoted!<br /><a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/5712" rel="nofollow">Surprise! AMA Wants to Shield Insurance/Pharma (and Doctors) from Public Plan Competition</a></p>
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		<title>By: ART45</title>
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		<dc:creator>ART45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ew,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are great.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You tie this shooting to union issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This shooting is great for anti-gun folks.  And pro-union folks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ew,</p>
<p>You are great.</p>
<p>You tie this shooting to union issues.</p>
<p>This shooting is great for anti-gun folks.  And pro-union folks.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165178</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Mr John was shot with a shotgun as he opened the door for the shooter he’d have taken the full blast, including the plastic shot holder.  Hard to survive a point blank shotgun blast.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr John was shot with a shotgun as he opened the door for the shooter he’d have taken the full blast, including the plastic shot holder.  Hard to survive a point blank shotgun blast.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165177</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, the military was tryin’ to cover their ass for a shitty logistical situation.  National Guard troops were being issued the same flak jackets we had in Nam.  Good for shrapnel, not so good against a 7.62mm round.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the military was tryin’ to cover their ass for a shitty logistical situation.  National Guard troops were being issued the same flak jackets we had in Nam.  Good for shrapnel, not so good against a 7.62mm round.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/american-heroes-american-union-members/#comment-165176</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I heard today that it was a 22. A 22 is a low caliber bullet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard today that it was a 22. A 22 is a low caliber bullet.</p>
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