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	<title>Comments on: Vaughn Walker&#8217;s Chess Game: The Cases</title>
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		<title>By: x174</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163813</link>
		<dc:creator>x174</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;still kickin’ ass, eh, mt? knowing the state of corrupt corporate culture in amerikka, i’d be surprised if any big biznesses are held accountable for anything. but it’d be nice to know if there is any speck of justice left in the good ol’ U ASS of A&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still kickin’ ass, eh, mt? knowing the state of corrupt corporate culture in amerikka, i’d be surprised if any big biznesses are held accountable for anything. but it’d be nice to know if there is any speck of justice left in the good ol’ U ASS of A</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163727</link>
		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Timbo!&lt;br /&gt;
Have you met Perris?  Timbo, Perris.  Perris, Timbo.  I think you have much in common to discuss in your concerns about “grey market” sales of illegally gathered information.  I also think you have a valid “angle” for getting at why this whole info-sucking activity is so bad–and how to frame it so that Corporatists pay attention.&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers.&lt;br /&gt;
FunnyWheelieDiva&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Timbo!<br />
Have you met Perris?  Timbo, Perris.  Perris, Timbo.  I think you have much in common to discuss in your concerns about “grey market” sales of illegally gathered information.  I also think you have a valid “angle” for getting at why this whole info-sucking activity is so bad–and how to frame it so that Corporatists pay attention.<br />
Cheers.<br />
FunnyWheelieDiva</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163725</link>
		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;$2 a pop, buddy!  You know where the donation linky is!&lt;br /&gt;
*wink*&lt;br /&gt;
You’re right, btw.  WTF is the Gray Lady thinking?  Oh.  Wait.  Nemmermine!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FWDiva&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$2 a pop, buddy!  You know where the donation linky is!<br />
*wink*<br />
You’re right, btw.  WTF is the Gray Lady thinking?  Oh.  Wait.  Nemmermine!</p>
<p>FWDiva</p>
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		<title>By: Funnydiva2002</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163722</link>
		<dc:creator>Funnydiva2002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, EW!&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for this!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure everyone here has already donated to the EmptyWheel Organic Blogging endowment.  But, just in case, consider this a gentle suggestion/reminder.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FunnyWheelieDiva&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, EW!<br />
Thanks for this!</p>
<p>I’m sure everyone here has already donated to the EmptyWheel Organic Blogging endowment.  But, just in case, consider this a gentle suggestion/reminder.  </p>
<p>FunnyWheelieDiva</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 05:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dog Town ??? POP, Venice ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ghetto by the Sea ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’ll never make it …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;here’s a deal, RD, you could have everything south of steamer lane&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but all our Mavericks are belongs to me&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;an you an Ms RD can have teh desert, but don let me catch you sniffin round my Humbolt county farm mkay ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(wink)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog Town ??? POP, Venice ???</p>
<p>Ghetto by the Sea ???</p>
<p>he’ll never make it …</p>
<p>here’s a deal, RD, you could have everything south of steamer lane</p>
<p>but all our Mavericks are belongs to me</p>
<p>an you an Ms RD can have teh desert, but don let me catch you sniffin round my Humbolt county farm mkay ???</p>
<p>(wink)</p>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another area of interest in the State Cases, legally, is whether that precludes plaintiffs from determining if information was sold on the gray markets about telco clients to 3rd parties not involved in federal intelligence gathering.  I think this is an area that has been greatly overlooked, although some evidence of a criminal enterprise in this area was mentioned a few years back…if that did happen, this area of preventing states from finding out about the extent of the criminal enterprises SPRINGING FROM the illegal and un-Constitutional abuse of powers, by setting up an the electronic infrastructure by the intelligence community, making it much easier to gather info on phone numbers and to make wiretaps “under the radar” for other criminal and illegal purposes is truly a major scandal.  Alas, with individual states precluded from following that angle, we may never know whether or not that did occur…although it seems to…there are a handful of investigations undertaken at the state level that showed that this might have been going on.  And that’s my alleged (for now) political hot potato, where actual rule of law hypocrites on the right and in the center are concerned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another area of interest in the State Cases, legally, is whether that precludes plaintiffs from determining if information was sold on the gray markets about telco clients to 3rd parties not involved in federal intelligence gathering.  I think this is an area that has been greatly overlooked, although some evidence of a criminal enterprise in this area was mentioned a few years back…if that did happen, this area of preventing states from finding out about the extent of the criminal enterprises SPRINGING FROM the illegal and un-Constitutional abuse of powers, by setting up an the electronic infrastructure by the intelligence community, making it much easier to gather info on phone numbers and to make wiretaps “under the radar” for other criminal and illegal purposes is truly a major scandal.  Alas, with individual states precluded from following that angle, we may never know whether or not that did occur…although it seems to…there are a handful of investigations undertaken at the state level that showed that this might have been going on.  And that’s my alleged (for now) political hot potato, where actual rule of law hypocrites on the right and in the center are concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163648</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, yer wife already selected Malibu and Rincon; says you should be restricted to South Central LA area.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, yer wife already selected Malibu and Rincon; says you should be restricted to South Central LA area.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163646</link>
		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uh, dude… I’m staying, but I’m sure we can work something out. Oh your Yosemite/Sequoia days, I’ll take Rincon and/or Malibu that day. Depends on the swell direction.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, dude… I’m staying, but I’m sure we can work something out. Oh your Yosemite/Sequoia days, I’ll take Rincon and/or Malibu that day. Depends on the swell direction.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163641</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Seda’s lawyer argues it would exculpatory (not least, presumably, because the whole case might be poisoned fruit).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There appears to me to be more than a sufficient &lt;em&gt;prima facie&lt;/em&gt; case for infirmity of the warrant and that Seda is entitled to the ability to go behind it.  All of this information is germane to exactly that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seda’s lawyer argues it would exculpatory (not least, presumably, because the whole case might be poisoned fruit).</p>
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<p>There appears to me to be more than a sufficient <em>prima facie</em> case for infirmity of the warrant and that Seda is entitled to the ability to go behind it.  All of this information is germane to exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/06/04/vaughn-walkers-chess-game-the-cases/#comment-163634</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In Walker’s Order, the case against Bush maintains.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Walker’s Order, the case against Bush maintains.</p>
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