Comments on: 12 to 16 Bottles, Not 5

By: Mithras61

Mithras61 — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:31:44 +0000

Indeed. Its more of the “it worked (got us valuable intel), so it was okay” stuff. It doesn’t matter if it worked. It doesn’t matter if the torturers exceeded the “allowed” number of pints of water. What matters is this:

1. They waterboarded prisoners.
2. Waterboarding prisoners is torture (by numerous definitions!).
3. Torture is illegal under U.S. and International Law.

Anything beyond or aside from that is irrelevant and/or a distraction.

By: pmorlan

pmorlan — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:30:50 +0000

Wow, that Army Medical report really says it, doesn’t it? The sheer misery we caused is just unbelievable.

By: JGabriel

JGabriel — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:32:59 +0000

One of the psychologists/interrogators acknowledged that the Agency’s use of the technique is different from that used in SERE training because it is “for real–and is more poignant and convincing.”)

Poignant?

Jesus.

By: MarkH

MarkH — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:26:28 +0000

Of course they had to report on the water-boarding because absolutely nobody would believe they were torturing someone by giving them an icecream headache. Even torturers wouldn’t believe that.

By: Dismayed

Dismayed — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:15:42 +0000

It really doesn’t matter if they used one bottle, 100 bottles, or a garden hose. It’s still torture. Once the line is crossed the degree does not matter. I think it best if the left avoids this entire diversionary topic. If we’re talking about how many bottles they use it reduces it to parody. That’s what they want. They waterboarded. It’s torture. We hung Japanese for it. The purps should be prosecuted. Waterborded – torture – the end.

And waterboarding is the least of it. When do we stop letting these fascist fucks direct the narrative. Water bottles, come on.

By: james

james — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:10:56 +0000

The thing is Boxturtle Halliburton/KBR beat you to it.

The disgusting thing about all of this is that Cheney’s company had the contract to provide the “troops” with bottled water in country. There was a bit of a scandal because the water the troops got was tainted yet KBR was still paid for it.

Maybe they just collected the water they used in the waterboarding and rebottled it to give to the troops.

You know how these people like to support the troops: spoiled food, tainted water, and a dose of electrocution to top it all off.

Why haven’t these contracts been cancelled? You wanna provide a stimulus and creat jobs Obama? Throw Halliburton out on its ass and give the contracts to start-up businesses run by the kids who hawk water bottles at Lollapalooza.

By: EvilDrPuma

EvilDrPuma — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:59:18 +0000

Yeah, it’s just what the doctor ordered…a way to make waterboarding worse. These people were real bastards.

By: DrBong

DrBong — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:57:13 +0000

killjoy!

By: DeanOR

DeanOR — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:50:51 +0000

“The difference was the manner in which the detainee’s breathing was obstructed.”
Need I point out that there is nothing “simulated” about suffocation?

By: Beerfart Liberal

Beerfart Liberal — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:20:58 +0000

damn. down 10 @ halftime.

believe in magic.