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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162883</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“Comrades”? Nah, that’s communism&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so we’re not doin the commie thing ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;does that mean we DON’T gotta learn The Internationale ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cuz I could still cancel the lessons&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and I got a shitlaod of red dye I gotta unload on the open market too …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>“Comrades”? Nah, that’s communism</strong></p>
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<p>so we’re not doin the commie thing ???</p>
<p>does that mean we DON’T gotta learn The Internationale ???</p>
<p>cuz I could still cancel the lessons</p>
<p>and I got a shitlaod of red dye I gotta unload on the open market too …</p>
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		<title>By: annalisabluhm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162860</link>
		<dc:creator>annalisabluhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is Annalisa Bluhm w/GM. Simply wanted to reiterate we don’t foresee the US Government will play a role in day-to-day operations of our company. Today, GM filed for Chapter 11 protection and will seek 363 process to quickly emerge as a new, viable company supported by our strongest brands and assets that will provide value as an investment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Above all, I personally want to thank Marcy, and this community, for the support you’ve given us over the past six months. Clearly, GM is in a difficult situation, however, it’s great to know there are people out there providing thoughtful, intelligent commentary on the state of the industry. I will continue to enjoy the debate and discourse!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Annalisa Bluhm w/GM. Simply wanted to reiterate we don’t foresee the US Government will play a role in day-to-day operations of our company. Today, GM filed for Chapter 11 protection and will seek 363 process to quickly emerge as a new, viable company supported by our strongest brands and assets that will provide value as an investment.</p>
<p>Above all, I personally want to thank Marcy, and this community, for the support you’ve given us over the past six months. Clearly, GM is in a difficult situation, however, it’s great to know there are people out there providing thoughtful, intelligent commentary on the state of the industry. I will continue to enjoy the debate and discourse!</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162827</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Future of Manufacturing, GM, and American Workers&lt;/strong&gt; (Part II)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Robert Reich&lt;br /&gt;
May 31, 2009, 9:37PM&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His Part 2 is now up.  Nice plug for education so that the symbolic-analytic workforce “will have the highest standard of living and be the most competitive internationally.”   And, according to him, there will be “no finite amount of symbolic-analytic work to be parceled out around the globe.”  But what about those who will not be able to function in the “symbolic-analytic workforce”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“More and more of our working people finds themselves in the local service economy — in hotels, hospitals, restaurant chains, and big-box retailers — earning low wages with little or no benefits. Unions could help raise their wages by giving them more bargaining leverage. A higher minimum wage and larger Earned Income Tax Credit could help as well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Some argue that even if I’m correct about all this, the erosion of traditional manufacturing impedes the capacity of Americans to learn important symbolic-analytic tasks, because such learning depends on an intimate understanding of the manufacturing process. . . . But most symbolic analysts do not. Whatever they need to learn about manufacturing can usually be discovered online.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[So, the internet will deliver knowledge necessary for successful symbolic-analysts in the workforce and the unions will make everything ok for those in the service sector.  But make no mistake about it–manufacturing in the US is a lost cause:]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;” . . . that’s exactly where I depart from those who believe we need to protect or bring back traditional manufacturing in the United States. To do so would be enormously costly. I just don’t get how those costs can possibly be justified.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/robert_reich/2009/05/the-future-of-manufacturing-gm-1.php?ref=fpd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsme.....hp?ref=fpd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is going on here?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Future of Manufacturing, GM, and American Workers</strong> (Part II)</p>
<p>Robert Reich<br />
May 31, 2009, 9:37PM</p>
<p>His Part 2 is now up.  Nice plug for education so that the symbolic-analytic workforce “will have the highest standard of living and be the most competitive internationally.”   And, according to him, there will be “no finite amount of symbolic-analytic work to be parceled out around the globe.”  But what about those who will not be able to function in the “symbolic-analytic workforce”?</p>
<p>“More and more of our working people finds themselves in the local service economy — in hotels, hospitals, restaurant chains, and big-box retailers — earning low wages with little or no benefits. Unions could help raise their wages by giving them more bargaining leverage. A higher minimum wage and larger Earned Income Tax Credit could help as well. </p>
<p>. . .</p>
<p>“Some argue that even if I’m correct about all this, the erosion of traditional manufacturing impedes the capacity of Americans to learn important symbolic-analytic tasks, because such learning depends on an intimate understanding of the manufacturing process. . . . But most symbolic analysts do not. Whatever they need to learn about manufacturing can usually be discovered online.</p>
<p>[So, the internet will deliver knowledge necessary for successful symbolic-analysts in the workforce and the unions will make everything ok for those in the service sector.  But make no mistake about it–manufacturing in the US is a lost cause:]</p>
<p>” . . . that’s exactly where I depart from those who believe we need to protect or bring back traditional manufacturing in the United States. To do so would be enormously costly. I just don’t get how those costs can possibly be justified.”</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/robert_reich/2009/05/the-future-of-manufacturing-gm-1.php?ref=fpd" rel="nofollow">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsme&#8230;..hp?ref=fpd</a></p>
<p>What is going on here?</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;GM has 254 million shares traded. Why would some one buy GM stock the last day it is traded?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM has 254 million shares traded. Why would some one buy GM stock the last day it is traded?</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162796</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Family used to own dealership.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Family used to own dealership.</p>
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		<title>By: robspierre</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162795</link>
		<dc:creator>robspierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“But the only way we’ll get to really influence the policy at GM will be to infiltrate the GM board with socialists.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I disagree with this use of the term “socialists”. US corporate boards are already packed with socialite socialists–the sort of apparatchniks and parasites that wrecked the USSR, but without the hammer and sickle. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to infiltrate the GM board with some actual businessmen for a change. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Corporations need people that understand that you make money by hiring, training, and retaining the best workers to design and build the best products, not by beancounting, laying people off, and playing games with the books. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too many of our so-called private-sector pundits forget that capitalism started as a movement for redistributing wealth equitably and creating the greatest  good for the greatest number.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“But the only way we’ll get to really influence the policy at GM will be to infiltrate the GM board with socialists.”</p>
<p>I disagree with this use of the term “socialists”. US corporate boards are already packed with socialite socialists–the sort of apparatchniks and parasites that wrecked the USSR, but without the hammer and sickle. </p>
<p>We need to infiltrate the GM board with some actual businessmen for a change. </p>
<p>Corporations need people that understand that you make money by hiring, training, and retaining the best workers to design and build the best products, not by beancounting, laying people off, and playing games with the books. </p>
<p>Too many of our so-called private-sector pundits forget that capitalism started as a movement for redistributing wealth equitably and creating the greatest  good for the greatest number.</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth1</title>
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		<dc:creator>hackworth1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reich neglected to mention that Giant Agribusiness is also an unsustainable system/business model. We cannot continue to poison the earth at the current rate. Skirting unenforced or weak environmental laws, Giant Agribiz is apparently greasing the right palms in Latin America, Canada and elsewhere around the globe - replacing rain forest with genetically modified, round-up resistant plants. The chemical run-off kills indigenous plant life - poisoning surrounding land, water, people and all life forms. Small farmers and idigenous peoples eventually are left with no choice but to surrender their land to the Corporation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For Reich to cite Agribiz as a successful biz model in such a way is intellectually dishonest and abbhorent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reich neglected to mention that Giant Agribusiness is also an unsustainable system/business model. We cannot continue to poison the earth at the current rate. Skirting unenforced or weak environmental laws, Giant Agribiz is apparently greasing the right palms in Latin America, Canada and elsewhere around the globe &#8211; replacing rain forest with genetically modified, round-up resistant plants. The chemical run-off kills indigenous plant life &#8211; poisoning surrounding land, water, people and all life forms. Small farmers and idigenous peoples eventually are left with no choice but to surrender their land to the Corporation.</p>
<p>For Reich to cite Agribiz as a successful biz model in such a way is intellectually dishonest and abbhorent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let me ask a question:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How many of you who have commented in this thread have worked for the auto industry, whether for an automaker, for a supplier, or for a dealer?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me ask a question:</p>
<p>How many of you who have commented in this thread have worked for the auto industry, whether for an automaker, for a supplier, or for a dealer?</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162788</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s not possible for him to be the real deal.  It’s a signal that machinations on paper that look good and comport with political objectives are all that matter.  GM has made many bad decisions, but it’s not because they haven’t hired the smartes B school and law school grads available.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not possible for him to be the real deal.  It’s a signal that machinations on paper that look good and comport with political objectives are all that matter.  GM has made many bad decisions, but it’s not because they haven’t hired the smartes B school and law school grads available.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/obama-announces-socialism/#comment-162787</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, I thought Reich’s blog comment wildly simplistic and pro-business.  His explanation that job losses were a function merely of “new knowledge” and new business models was so facile, I wouldn’t accept it from a freshman.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Factory job losses may be as inevitable as losses on the farm or in dmoestic service.  They needn’t be accelerated by tolerance for slash-burn-and-liquidate business models or by government subsidizing them via unenforced labor laws, look the other way “enforcement” of anti-trust laws, and trade policies that do more for global investment managers than those who live and work in this country.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I almost thought I was reading a column by David Brooks, after he’d attended a writing seminar.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I thought Reich’s blog comment wildly simplistic and pro-business.  His explanation that job losses were a function merely of “new knowledge” and new business models was so facile, I wouldn’t accept it from a freshman.  </p>
<p>Factory job losses may be as inevitable as losses on the farm or in dmoestic service.  They needn’t be accelerated by tolerance for slash-burn-and-liquidate business models or by government subsidizing them via unenforced labor laws, look the other way “enforcement” of anti-trust laws, and trade policies that do more for global investment managers than those who live and work in this country.  </p>
<p>I almost thought I was reading a column by David Brooks, after he’d attended a writing seminar.</p>
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