Comments on: Bush’s Approved Torture … in 2003? http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: amilius http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162601 amilius Sun, 31 May 2009 18:56:56 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162601 <p>W ‘wants’ to be able to say that he did everything possible to protect the American public because the events of 9.11 prove he did not. That is why they attach the qualifier, “…since 9.11″. In the process, they have only aggravated oppressive circumstances among the disenfranchised around the world.</p> W ‘wants’ to be able to say that he did everything possible to protect the American public because the events of 9.11 prove he did not. That is why they attach the qualifier, “…since 9.11″. In the process, they have only aggravated oppressive circumstances among the disenfranchised around the world.

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162574 Gitcheegumee Sun, 31 May 2009 17:13:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162574 <p>Styve: I’m SO glad you posted this info.</p> <p>I tried to post this on another site,a few days ago,and my post was deleted by the mods.</p> <p>BTW,ere’nt we continuously told that the US did NOT torture?</p> Styve: I’m SO glad you posted this info.

I tried to post this on another site,a few days ago,and my post was deleted by the mods.

BTW,ere’nt we continuously told that the US did NOT torture?

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162561 Leen Sun, 31 May 2009 16:10:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162561 <p>sick sick sicko</p> sick sick sicko

]]> By: valletta http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162559 valletta Sun, 31 May 2009 15:59:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162559 <p>I’m re-reading The Dark Side and in it is a reference to a draft proposal that Trent Lott delivers to Tom Daschle on 9/14/01 which states that the President has carte blanche as a war president to do anything he feels he needs to do including <strong>declaring American citizens illegal combatants</strong>, etc. so the idea that he <strong>wouldn’t </strong>feel that torture is allowed is contrary to everything that was being done right after 9/11.<br /> As Jane Mayer says in the book, they were panicked. Lawrence Wilkerson uses the same terminology. </p> <p>Interesting that Tom Daschle was the anthrax target just one month after he refused to sign off on Bush’s imperial power grab.</p> I’m re-reading The Dark Side and in it is a reference to a draft proposal that Trent Lott delivers to Tom Daschle on 9/14/01 which states that the President has carte blanche as a war president to do anything he feels he needs to do including declaring American citizens illegal combatants, etc. so the idea that he wouldn’t feel that torture is allowed is contrary to everything that was being done right after 9/11.
As Jane Mayer says in the book, they were panicked. Lawrence Wilkerson uses the same terminology.

Interesting that Tom Daschle was the anthrax target just one month after he refused to sign off on Bush’s imperial power grab.

]]> By: rjrnab http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162551 rjrnab Sun, 31 May 2009 15:27:02 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162551 <p>In response to Ken Muldrew</p> <p>If you Canucks could’ve just got his urine sample, we could prove he’s on drugs.</p> <p>Yeah, did you hear they had to bring out of China during the Olympics all of georgies p-p & pooh-pooh so they couldn’t prove he’s on drugs.</p> <p>I hate admitting you’re really right sir. What’s Europe going to do send<br /> Interpol to a Starbucks in D. C. to arrest cheney and frogmarch him to the Hague? OBL & H Chavez seem to always be spot on, we da devil.</p> In response to Ken Muldrew

If you Canucks could’ve just got his urine sample, we could prove he’s on drugs.

Yeah, did you hear they had to bring out of China during the Olympics all of georgies p-p & pooh-pooh so they couldn’t prove he’s on drugs.

I hate admitting you’re really right sir. What’s Europe going to do send
Interpol to a Starbucks in D. C. to arrest cheney and frogmarch him to the Hague? OBL & H Chavez seem to always be spot on, we da devil.

]]> By: rjrnab http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162546 rjrnab Sun, 31 May 2009 15:12:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162546 <p>In response to fatster</p> <p>OOOOOO conclave, is that like seperate private enclaves?</p> <p>And, George Washington, ( georgie’s mom ) shamed georgie 1st when she first noted his running for presidance as a joke.</p> In response to fatster

OOOOOO conclave, is that like seperate private enclaves?

And, George Washington, ( georgie’s mom ) shamed georgie 1st when she first noted his running for presidance as a joke.

]]> By: tjbs http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162535 tjbs Sun, 31 May 2009 14:19:21 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162535 <p>Did anyone mention Nuremburg 2.0?</p> <p>The International War Crimes Tribunal is the best solution other than massive amounts of brain bleach on an IV drip.</p> Did anyone mention Nuremburg 2.0?

The International War Crimes Tribunal is the best solution other than massive amounts of brain bleach on an IV drip.

]]> By: i4u2bi http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162533 i4u2bi Sun, 31 May 2009 14:02:50 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162533 <p>We may need some guidelines or rules as to what is acceptable or not acceptable behavior for people under the claw of blackmail or threat of life and limb.</p> We may need some guidelines or rules as to what is acceptable or not acceptable behavior for people under the claw of blackmail or threat of life and limb.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162524 bmaz Sun, 31 May 2009 12:53:45 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162524 <p>Agreed.</p> Agreed.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162518 emptywheel Sun, 31 May 2009 12:21:33 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/30/bushs-approved-torture-in-2003/#comment-162518 <p>But we don’t know it was al-Nashiri. All we know is that we’ve got questions about why al-Nashiri’s waterboarding stopped, and we’ve got questions about why tracheotomy kits started appearing inthe torture medical bag. It’s a likely conclusion, but it’s also possibly they needed it for Abu Zubaydah or someone who was tortured in another way.</p> But we don’t know it was al-Nashiri. All we know is that we’ve got questions about why al-Nashiri’s waterboarding stopped, and we’ve got questions about why tracheotomy kits started appearing inthe torture medical bag. It’s a likely conclusion, but it’s also possibly they needed it for Abu Zubaydah or someone who was tortured in another way.

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