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	<title>Comments on: Cheney&#8217;s So-Called Recidivists</title>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162343</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 10:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have to be glad that Petraeus is not a judge, yes? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wow, but I find that sleazy. Trying to present himself as a noble guy who recognizes the GCs, but then winking and nudging his listeners into agreeing that the terrists should be convicted anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to be glad that Petraeus is not a judge, yes? </p>
<p>Wow, but I find that sleazy. Trying to present himself as a noble guy who recognizes the GCs, but then winking and nudging his listeners into agreeing that the terrists should be convicted anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162319</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look, free speech is free as in a free puppy, not free as in a free beer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anybody can say whatever they like on the internet — in their own blog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s incredibly difficult for other people to work collaboratively on investigative work when they are derailed and in this case, immediately. By now you already should understand freep’s role in the community, which would be less disruptive if people stopped pointing to it and stayed on topic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mary (108) — and by now after all his abuse, how would we ever find out given Padilla’s broken mind whether he’d been subjected to torture, or if he’d been subjected to testing which was coincidentally torture. The description of some of the missing videos as “clinical” haunts me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, free speech is free as in a free puppy, not free as in a free beer.</p>
<p>Anybody can say whatever they like on the internet — in their own blog.</p>
<p>It’s incredibly difficult for other people to work collaboratively on investigative work when they are derailed and in this case, immediately. By now you already should understand freep’s role in the community, which would be less disruptive if people stopped pointing to it and stayed on topic.</p>
<p>Mary (108) — and by now after all his abuse, how would we ever find out given Padilla’s broken mind whether he’d been subjected to torture, or if he’d been subjected to testing which was coincidentally torture. The description of some of the missing videos as “clinical” haunts me.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162317</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They have insane goats?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have insane goats?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162312</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When, in a Global War on Terror, the whole Globe is the “battlefield” even prisoners are on the battlefield. Returning to it is merely redundant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, during the Obama administration there is no GWOT, so now there is 0% recidivism. Ha!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When, in a Global War on Terror, the whole Globe is the “battlefield” even prisoners are on the battlefield. Returning to it is merely redundant.</p>
<p>Of course, during the Obama administration there is no GWOT, so now there is 0% recidivism. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pathetic. First they imprison a lot of innocents and then they release some who really are anti-American and then they categorize talk as terrorism. Just pathetic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathetic. First they imprison a lot of innocents and then they release some who really are anti-American and then they categorize talk as terrorism. Just pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162308</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;’Poignant’.  Well, that’s a  long story, Freep.  Enjoy yr weekend.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>’Poignant’.  Well, that’s a  long story, Freep.  Enjoy yr weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: lurkinlil</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162305</link>
		<dc:creator>lurkinlil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to THATanonymous @ 106  and Mary @ 109&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One has to have a degree of confidence that individuals that have conducted such extremist activity would indeed be found guilty in our courts of law.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So does his statement include those who dreamed all this up and twisted the law to justify it?  Or is he saying that only those who actually committed the acts of torture?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In addition:  The ICRC report says we tortured, the recent U.N. report says we probably committed war crimes, and now Gen.Pet. says we violated the GC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder &lt;strong&gt;when&lt;/strong&gt;, if ever, our government is going to do something about it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to THATanonymous @ 106  and Mary @ 109</p>
<blockquote><p>One has to have a degree of confidence that individuals that have conducted such extremist activity would indeed be found guilty in our courts of law.</p>
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<p>So does his statement include those who dreamed all this up and twisted the law to justify it?  Or is he saying that only those who actually committed the acts of torture?</p>
<p>In addition:  The ICRC report says we tortured, the recent U.N. report says we probably committed war crimes, and now Gen.Pet. says we violated the GC.</p>
<p>I wonder <strong>when</strong>, if ever, our government is going to do something about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;he means KSM from the context, on the hoping they would be found guilty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that’s pretty much what the case law is making thing ripe for - from Padilla to several other cases where hooded torture guys gave evidences without court objections&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he means KSM from the context, on the hoping they would be found guilty.</p>
<p>And that’s pretty much what the case law is making thing ripe for &#8211; from Padilla to several other cases where hooded torture guys gave evidences without court objections</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162292</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Padilla’s lawyers have alleged that he was drugged at the brig, multiple times.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Padilla’s lawyers have alleged that he was drugged at the brig, multiple times.</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/29/cheneys-so-called-recidivists/comment-page-1/#comment-162287</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Noting that comment #1 was not in fact my own, and that my comments were in direct response to those of many others, the absolutely vulgar and abusive language employed by Freep was a complete violation of civil discourse, and totally unwarranted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is precisely the type of behavior that characterized the Bush Administration where silencing differing opinions is concerned.  Attacking the messenger - turning the community at large against him/her - is called Swiftboating.  It’s a Rovian tactic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Censorship takes many forms, all of which are repugnant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not Argentina.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noting that comment #1 was not in fact my own, and that my comments were in direct response to those of many others, the absolutely vulgar and abusive language employed by Freep was a complete violation of civil discourse, and totally unwarranted.</p>
<p>This is precisely the type of behavior that characterized the Bush Administration where silencing differing opinions is concerned.  Attacking the messenger &#8211; turning the community at large against him/her &#8211; is called Swiftboating.  It’s a Rovian tactic.</p>
<p>Censorship takes many forms, all of which are repugnant.</p>
<p>This is not Argentina.</p>
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