Comments on: Pincus and CIA Panic

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Tue, 19 May 2009 22:30:45 +0000

Hi Leen,

I have scanned a copy as a jpeg of the flow chart. Would that work?

By: perris

perris — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:57:26 +0000

the Lie Factory
http://www.motherjones.com/pol…..ie-factory
Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been revealed in full. But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews‚ — some on the record, some with officials who insisted on anonymity‚ — exposes the workings of a secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department’s war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It’s the story of a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11, 2001, to set it into motion.

or, “team b”

I’ve been pointing to them for years

first put together by none other then rumsfeld/cheney (cheney was the underling) back to undermine nixon’s treaty of detante

they are war profiteers who cannot survive without unrest

By: esseff44

esseff44 — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:48:49 +0000

I am still amazed that more has not been made of the FBI director pulling his interrogators out rather than continuing with ‘enhanced’ or more ‘agressive’ techniques that they knew were over the line. I remember when it came out in the press and there was little notice of it. I couldn’t understand it then and even less now. There were FBI and (according to Ali Soufan) regular CIA who protested to their superiors. The FBI were told to leave. What happened to the regular CIA when the contractors were taking over. The FBI director had a different attitude about the “Will I be in trouble in five years if I do this?” question. General Hayden should be reminded of this as well as those who quote him. The FBI director was looking after his interrogators and the interests of the country at the same time. Again, why didn’t this make more of a ripple in the news?

By: Palli

Palli — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:16:11 +0000

and taught a generation of young soldiers how to dishonor their country. These young men and women will have to live with knowledge of a dishonorable war all their lives. Good soldiers/people are sick in their gut and bad soldiers/people have had their worst instincts endorsed.

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 19 May 2009 20:51:19 +0000

Can you link the flow chart?

By: Nell

Nell — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:43:24 +0000

My lawyers assure me it’s perfectly legal as long as it’s conducted within the four walls of this comment section.

By: Styve

Styve — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:43:19 +0000

This could work out for the better, if the CIA is investigated for its role in doing Cheney’s dirty intelligence work, to provide cover for the illegal wars and perhaps even Cheney’s and even its own involvement in the events of 9-11-01!! Church (Committee) Bells ringing!

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:26:49 +0000

That’s kind of a linquistic walling you’re handing out there, you know? Cyber-causing someone to bang their own head on the wall.

By: plunger

plunger — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:17:12 +0000

If I’m Hersh, I’m nervous about Cheney. Until this bastard is actually placed in leg irons, a lot of people are still nervous about Cheney’s CFR backing and related resources and tentacles.

By: Cheryl

Cheryl — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:14:20 +0000

I love that Mother Jones article. I’m glad you put up a link to it. I didn’t see the flow chart from the original magazine article (I still have a hard copy) in the link. Have you seen it? It’s a great flow chart that makes it so easy to see the Intelligence Flow right to Cheney. I would really like to do a flow chart for the Torture Intelligence Chain. If you would like, I could send you a copy from the Mother Jones article for your research.