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	<title>Comments on: David Obey: Yet More Proof the CIA Briefing List Is Totally Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Jkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;whoa .. loads and loads of good stuff in this string … thanks to you all for the effort … &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i agree that “walker” is probably mary walker … &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how to confirm is a different proposition .. eh ??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa .. loads and loads of good stuff in this string … thanks to you all for the effort … </p>
<p>i agree that “walker” is probably mary walker … </p>
<p>how to confirm is a different proposition .. eh ??</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My guess is that Obey has given up the “not available” names. The briefer, not cited in the CIA summary, was General Hayden. The “Walker” would be, I suspect, &lt;a href=&quot;http://tortureaccountability.org/mary_walker/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mary Walker&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that Obey has given up the “not available” names. The briefer, not cited in the CIA summary, was General Hayden. The “Walker” would be, I suspect, <a href="http://tortureaccountability.org/mary_walker/" rel="nofollow">Mary Walker</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ackerman has a piece upon the &lt;a href=&quot;http://washingtonindependent.com/43615/cia-responds-to-obey-briefing-accounts-are-not-transcripts-and-recordings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CIA’s response &lt;/a&gt;to Obey:  Notes, recollections, memos - that’s all we got.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They don’t mention how many of the notes are in the margin in Cheney’s handwriting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ackerman has a piece upon the <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/43615/cia-responds-to-obey-briefing-accounts-are-not-transcripts-and-recordings" rel="nofollow">CIA’s response </a>to Obey:  Notes, recollections, memos &#8211; that’s all we got.  </p>
<p>They don’t mention how many of the notes are in the margin in Cheney’s handwriting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So - do we know who Walker is?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; do we know who Walker is?</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bingo&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo</p>
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		<title>By: esseff44</title>
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		<dc:creator>esseff44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I saw the same thing in Viet Nam.  I lived across the street from them in My Tho.  They shot a neighbor’s dog from their balcony with a bow and arrow for barking too much.  They were called “embassy people.”  They were thug-like in appearance and behavior. They did not help to win hearts and minds and we know how wrong they were on the intel. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like Raven had similar experiences in Vinh Long.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the same thing in Viet Nam.  I lived across the street from them in My Tho.  They shot a neighbor’s dog from their balcony with a bow and arrow for barking too much.  They were called “embassy people.”  They were thug-like in appearance and behavior. They did not help to win hearts and minds and we know how wrong they were on the intel. </p>
<p>Looks like Raven had similar experiences in Vinh Long.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Miliband won’t, but I’m thinking that the High Court judges will. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sheesh. Somebody has to break this nonsense wide open.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miliband won’t, but I’m thinking that the High Court judges will. </p>
<p>Sheesh. Somebody has to break this nonsense wide open.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know how it feels to American friends here to read that, but to a foreigner comme moi, that is a profoundly depressing piece of writing, mostly, I suppose, because I believe just about all of it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know how it feels to American friends here to read that, but to a foreigner comme moi, that is a profoundly depressing piece of writing, mostly, I suppose, because I believe just about all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
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		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Norskflamethrower @22&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I want another Watergate hearing before I die!!!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hang in there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;time series analysis:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1973.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1985.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1997*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2009.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hey, could happen any day now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oh the rapture!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*  manufactured investigation focusing on personal, not constitutional, issues.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norskflamethrower @22</p>
<p>“I want another Watergate hearing before I die!!!”</p>
<p>hang in there.</p>
<p>time series analysis:</p>
<p>1973.</p>
<p>1985.</p>
<p>1997*</p>
<p>2009.</p>
<p>hey, could happen any day now.</p>
<p>oh the rapture!</p>
<p>*  manufactured investigation focusing on personal, not constitutional, issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT, but looky - the Democrats in the Senate are going to&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090519/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_guantanamo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; block funds &lt;/a&gt;for closing GITMO. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t that special.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but looky &#8211; the Democrats in the Senate are going to<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090519/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_guantanamo" rel="nofollow"> block funds </a>for closing GITMO. </p>
<p>Isn’t that special.</p>
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