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	<title>Comments on: Liz Cheney&#8217;s Non-Denial #2: Daddy Suggested&#8211;But CIA Refused to Execute&#8211;Waterboarding</title>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/liz-cheneys-non-denial-2-daddy-suggested-but-cia-refused-to-execute-waterboarding/#comment-159340</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Laura Flanders hits it out of the park.&lt;br /&gt;
Torturer in Chief: Media Pick Pelosi over Cheney?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beltway journalists seem finally to have a found a torture story they like. Mind you, not the one about the Bush/Cheney White House possibly okaying drowning to extract “information” to justify an Iraq attack  — not that story. The story the Beltway bulldogs have decided to get stuck into is a story about Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/pelosi-cheney-bybee-torture/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lauraflanders.firedogla.....e-torture/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura Flanders hits it out of the park.<br />
Torturer in Chief: Media Pick Pelosi over Cheney?</p>
<p>Beltway journalists seem finally to have a found a torture story they like. Mind you, not the one about the Bush/Cheney White House possibly okaying drowning to extract “information” to justify an Iraq attack  — not that story. The story the Beltway bulldogs have decided to get stuck into is a story about Democrats.</p>
<p><a href="http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/pelosi-cheney-bybee-torture/" rel="nofollow">http://lauraflanders.firedogla&#8230;..e-torture/</a></p>
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		<title>By: esseff44</title>
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		<dc:creator>esseff44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is the link to information on the husband of Liz Cheney Perry.  He was in the think of things as well.  At one time, he was legal counsel for the DHS.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Perry&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Perry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am surprised that they haven’t put him on the talk show circuit as well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link to information on the husband of Liz Cheney Perry.  He was in the think of things as well.  At one time, he was legal counsel for the DHS.  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Perry" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Perry</a></p>
<p>I am surprised that they haven’t put him on the talk show circuit as well.</p>
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		<title>By: financialtools1</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/liz-cheneys-non-denial-2-daddy-suggested-but-cia-refused-to-execute-waterboarding/#comment-159155</link>
		<dc:creator>financialtools1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This morning on c-span.org/  ( as well as in npr.org/ ) , the ex-Senator and ex-Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham said that he was briefed by a CIA operative , Moskowitz, in September 2002 like Speaker Pelosi and he was told that there was no torture, no waterboarding, and more : he was informed that the CIA had briefed him 3 times, so he check with his notes and saw that he had not been briefed, he told the CIA and was told : Sorry, we made a mistake…. so this is the second Congress member saying that the CIA in the 2002 and 2003 period was not talking torture, not talking waterboarding, and the question that no one in the media is asking is ; WHO IS CIA OPERATIVE MOSKOWITZ ?  WHO IS THIS GUY ? WHERE IS HE ? WHY WAS HE BRIEFING CONGRESS MEMBERS AT THE HART BUILDING INSTEAD THEN AT THE WHITE HOUSE ?  …..MOSKOWITZ IS THE KEY…so of course, since he is a friend of Eliot Abrams, Ira Fleischer and Mehlman, the Media will not say a word, right? what a criminal shame !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104196363&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....=104196363&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the answers are also in the wife of Dick Cheney, she is a fanatic supporter of AIPAC and the Israeli Intelligence, she was the link and the fuel …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning on c-span.org/  ( as well as in npr.org/ ) , the ex-Senator and ex-Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham said that he was briefed by a CIA operative , Moskowitz, in September 2002 like Speaker Pelosi and he was told that there was no torture, no waterboarding, and more : he was informed that the CIA had briefed him 3 times, so he check with his notes and saw that he had not been briefed, he told the CIA and was told : Sorry, we made a mistake…. so this is the second Congress member saying that the CIA in the 2002 and 2003 period was not talking torture, not talking waterboarding, and the question that no one in the media is asking is ; WHO IS CIA OPERATIVE MOSKOWITZ ?  WHO IS THIS GUY ? WHERE IS HE ? WHY WAS HE BRIEFING CONGRESS MEMBERS AT THE HART BUILDING INSTEAD THEN AT THE WHITE HOUSE ?  …..MOSKOWITZ IS THE KEY…so of course, since he is a friend of Eliot Abrams, Ira Fleischer and Mehlman, the Media will not say a word, right? what a criminal shame !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104196363" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/s&#8230;..=104196363</a></p>
<p>the answers are also in the wife of Dick Cheney, she is a fanatic supporter of AIPAC and the Israeli Intelligence, she was the link and the fuel …</p>
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		<title>By: DKGreen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/liz-cheneys-non-denial-2-daddy-suggested-but-cia-refused-to-execute-waterboarding/#comment-159152</link>
		<dc:creator>DKGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still don’t understand what business she has to talk about this.  She was not a member of the administration and should have no first-hand knowledge of this.  If she even has second-hand knowledge of this, as of yet still classified, material, then Dick Cheney is revealing state secrets.  I thought that was still a no-no.  Am I wrong about this??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don’t understand what business she has to talk about this.  She was not a member of the administration and should have no first-hand knowledge of this.  If she even has second-hand knowledge of this, as of yet still classified, material, then Dick Cheney is revealing state secrets.  I thought that was still a no-no.  Am I wrong about this??</p>
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		<title>By: DeadLast</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/liz-cheneys-non-denial-2-daddy-suggested-but-cia-refused-to-execute-waterboarding/#comment-159149</link>
		<dc:creator>DeadLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing that bothers me is how did babyDick get to be such an authority on a top secret, need to know, basis progam?  She talks as if she were privy all the way along.  Was this casual dinner conversation at an undisclosed location?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that bothers me is how did babyDick get to be such an authority on a top secret, need to know, basis progam?  She talks as if she were privy all the way along.  Was this casual dinner conversation at an undisclosed location?</p>
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		<title>By: timtimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>timtimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d be surprised if the SCUM (so called unbiased media) weren’t fine combing Marcy’s stuff like exuberant Christian apologists offering explanations for all the wrath of their so called loving God.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Papa Dick and Baby Dick both seem like exceptional pricks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can we get on with the war crimes trials already?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d be surprised if the SCUM (so called unbiased media) weren’t fine combing Marcy’s stuff like exuberant Christian apologists offering explanations for all the wrath of their so called loving God.</p>
<p>Papa Dick and Baby Dick both seem like exceptional pricks.</p>
<p>Can we get on with the war crimes trials already?</p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sorry.  just got done painting the bathroom. woo hoo.  good place to thimk.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry.  just got done painting the bathroom. woo hoo.  good place to thimk.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;as in “immaculate conspiracy”?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as in “immaculate conspiracy”?</p>
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		<title>By: lewisclark</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/18/liz-cheneys-non-denial-2-daddy-suggested-but-cia-refused-to-execute-waterboarding/#comment-159131</link>
		<dc:creator>lewisclark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know what’s pathetically funny? The fact that Cheney’s daughter is out on the TV circuit pushing this bullshit means there must have been a conversation down in the bunker between father and daughter that went something like:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Uh, LIz, I’ve asked you here because daddy needs your help. Y’see, we’ve done some internal polling and uh, well, it seems that 87% of television viewers feel a (quote) ‘distinct wave of anxiety and nausea’ (unquote) anytime my face appears on the screen. Also, 54% feel strongly that I’m the spawn of Nosferatu, King of the Un-Dead, and er, almost 46% of Americans say they would personally pay up to $50 on pay per view to see me water-boarded. In other words I’d like you to go out there and use that natural, telegenic charm of yours to tell my side of the story. Muhh.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what’s pathetically funny? The fact that Cheney’s daughter is out on the TV circuit pushing this bullshit means there must have been a conversation down in the bunker between father and daughter that went something like:</p>
<p>“Uh, LIz, I’ve asked you here because daddy needs your help. Y’see, we’ve done some internal polling and uh, well, it seems that 87% of television viewers feel a (quote) ‘distinct wave of anxiety and nausea’ (unquote) anytime my face appears on the screen. Also, 54% feel strongly that I’m the spawn of Nosferatu, King of the Un-Dead, and er, almost 46% of Americans say they would personally pay up to $50 on pay per view to see me water-boarded. In other words I’d like you to go out there and use that natural, telegenic charm of yours to tell my side of the story. Muhh.”</p>
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		<title>By: sojourner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sojourner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gosh — you are absolutely spot on!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh — you are absolutely spot on!</p>
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