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	<title>Comments on: Crazy Pete Hoekstra Flip-Flops on Congressional Notification</title>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/15/crazy-pete-hoekstra-flip-flops-on-congressional-notification/#comment-158434</link>
		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody have any idea how putting Bush/Cheyney, etc., in the dock is going to help THIS situation?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://apnews.myway.com//article/20090516/D987C1CO0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://apnews.myway.com//artic.....C1CO0.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s been a lot of effort to tie things together, some of it worthy, or course, but I’d like to tie this into the effort, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody have any idea how putting Bush/Cheyney, etc., in the dock is going to help THIS situation?  </p>
<p><a href="http://apnews.myway.com//article/20090516/D987C1CO0.html" rel="nofollow">http://apnews.myway.com//artic&#8230;..C1CO0.html</a></p>
<p>There’s been a lot of effort to tie things together, some of it worthy, or course, but I’d like to tie this into the effort, too.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: DeanOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeanOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m pretty sure that telling the truth, just because it’s true, and obeying the law, just because it’s the law, would be regarded as extremely naive and self-defeating, if not dangerous and unpatriotic, by many in the CIA. Lying is part of what they do. Of course, they believe it is justified. They lie to enemies; that’s in the job description. They lie to allies. They lie to each other. They think they operate in a realm, which they call “our world”,  that is outside the ordinary moral universe. Misleading Congress is a no-brainer. A Congress person who has been “briefed” on classified info, meaning they have been told what CIA wants to tell them about selected things they have already decided to do or are already doing, is prohibited from talking to anyone about it or taking notes, and they can be VERY intimidating.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m pretty sure that telling the truth, just because it’s true, and obeying the law, just because it’s the law, would be regarded as extremely naive and self-defeating, if not dangerous and unpatriotic, by many in the CIA. Lying is part of what they do. Of course, they believe it is justified. They lie to enemies; that’s in the job description. They lie to allies. They lie to each other. They think they operate in a realm, which they call “our world”,  that is outside the ordinary moral universe. Misleading Congress is a no-brainer. A Congress person who has been “briefed” on classified info, meaning they have been told what CIA wants to tell them about selected things they have already decided to do or are already doing, is prohibited from talking to anyone about it or taking notes, and they can be VERY intimidating.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/15/crazy-pete-hoekstra-flip-flops-on-congressional-notification/#comment-158329</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting…in 2006 when the Democrats took over suddenly the republicans were concerned with transparency! Before that? Not so much. War crimes and everything else was good to go with no oversight and they didn’t care what the CIA was telling them or not telling them, because they honored George Bush as the president right or wrong!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting…in 2006 when the Democrats took over suddenly the republicans were concerned with transparency! Before that? Not so much. War crimes and everything else was good to go with no oversight and they didn’t care what the CIA was telling them or not telling them, because they honored George Bush as the president right or wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: rkilowatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkilowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TYPO–2nd para ” direct all elements of the Intelligence &lt;strong&gt;Committee&lt;/strong&gt;” should read Intelligence &lt;strong&gt;Community&lt;/strong&gt;.[see your pdf link]  Alters the meaning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TYPO–2nd para ” direct all elements of the Intelligence <strong>Committee</strong>” should read Intelligence <strong>Community</strong>.[see your pdf link]  Alters the meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/15/crazy-pete-hoekstra-flip-flops-on-congressional-notification/#comment-158160</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cannot believe this shallow and incurious man is running for governor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cut him some slack&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the race for village idiot was full&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cannot believe this shallow and incurious man is running for governor.</p>
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<p>cut him some slack</p>
<p>the race for village idiot was full</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/15/crazy-pete-hoekstra-flip-flops-on-congressional-notification/#comment-158144</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“So why do you think it is that the author of this letter–Crazy Pete Hoekstra–has spent the last three weeks beating up Nancy Pelosi when–by all accounts–she was not briefed on the CIA’s activities “fully and currently” in 2002?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Imvho, the most obvious answer: Because Crazy-Pete is Complicit with Bush and Cheney’s Torture Program. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, he feels that if he doesn’t attack Pelosi and Slime her - then he’ll be left standing there in his wife-beater, sporting a “Luvs Me Some Torture” Tattoo, all by himself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s got Zero chance of being elected Governor, imvho, or any other respectable office, either. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s a Monster Enabler.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“So why do you think it is that the author of this letter–Crazy Pete Hoekstra–has spent the last three weeks beating up Nancy Pelosi when–by all accounts–she was not briefed on the CIA’s activities “fully and currently” in 2002?”</p>
<p>Imvho, the most obvious answer: Because Crazy-Pete is Complicit with Bush and Cheney’s Torture Program. </p>
<p>And, he feels that if he doesn’t attack Pelosi and Slime her &#8211; then he’ll be left standing there in his wife-beater, sporting a “Luvs Me Some Torture” Tattoo, all by himself.</p>
<p>He’s got Zero chance of being elected Governor, imvho, or any other respectable office, either. </p>
<p>He’s a Monster Enabler.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe you should check Crazy Pete’s Twitter stream for a reply, although you might have to wade through some useless conservative stream of consciousness crap to get to it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@petehoekstra&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see from his tweets that he liked the ghost writing WSJ did about what Nancy knew and when did know it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cannot believe this shallow and incurious man is running for governor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should check Crazy Pete’s Twitter stream for a reply, although you might have to wade through some useless conservative stream of consciousness crap to get to it.</p>
<p>@petehoekstra</p>
<p>I see from his tweets that he liked the ghost writing WSJ did about what Nancy knew and when did know it.</p>
<p>Cannot believe this shallow and incurious man is running for governor.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;when do we see the rule of law restored within our government?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when our neighbors learn our lawmakers have raped and murdered children&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>when do we see the rule of law restored within our government?</strong></p>
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<p>when our neighbors learn our lawmakers have raped and murdered children</p>
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		<title>By: marksb</title>
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		<dc:creator>marksb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well the tubes are funny this morning. Sorry for the partial double post.&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers! -mark&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the tubes are funny this morning. Sorry for the partial double post.<br />
Cheers! -mark</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;anybody got a list of the congresscritters who have seen the pictures and videos ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wannna hang my congresscritter with a few years of complicit silence&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;after all&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we’re talking about raping and murdering children&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anybody got a list of the congresscritters who have seen the pictures and videos ???</p>
<p>I wannna hang my congresscritter with a few years of complicit silence</p>
<p>after all</p>
<p>we’re talking about raping and murdering children</p>
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