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	<title>Comments on: Dick Cheney Out on a Limb Fourth Branch</title>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/14/dick-cheney-out-on-a-limb-fourth-branch/#comment-158153</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for taking a look at it, nonetheless.  Great that you posted that over at DU!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking a look at it, nonetheless.  Great that you posted that over at DU!</p>
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		<title>By: kpete</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/14/dick-cheney-out-on-a-limb-fourth-branch/#comment-158146</link>
		<dc:creator>kpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;no clue&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no clue</p>
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		<title>By: fatster</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/14/dick-cheney-out-on-a-limb-fourth-branch/#comment-158142</link>
		<dc:creator>fatster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please advise why the address I provided (see 117 and 119 above) did not work, but yours does (or does for me).  Would a Mac have this effect?  Thnx!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please advise why the address I provided (see 117 and 119 above) did not work, but yours does (or does for me).  Would a Mac have this effect?  Thnx!</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/14/dick-cheney-out-on-a-limb-fourth-branch/#comment-158099</link>
		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;tanbark, this story is moving like a California Wildfire!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The relevance of Cheney’s ‘effectiveness memos’ has been Overcome By Events - Wilkerson is saying that Cheney Waterboarded Long Before any Legal Memos and not on any ticking time bomb scenario, either. But instead, Cheney was out to ’substantiate’ his Belief that Al Qaeda was in Iraq in ‘02 - as a pre-text for Invading. And, we know that Cheney and Bush clearly used Al-Libi’s Tortured Confession to Falsely Stoke the Fires of War.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That makes the effectiveness of August’s ‘Legally’ Word-Twisted ‘EITs’ no longer relevant in the face of a Flat-Out Statutory War Crime by Cheney the Previous April/May.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which explains, imvho, why the Big Dog’s reply to Cheney’s Pugnacious “So?!” was “So, it’s Over!”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tanbark, this story is moving like a California Wildfire!</p>
<p>The relevance of Cheney’s ‘effectiveness memos’ has been Overcome By Events &#8211; Wilkerson is saying that Cheney Waterboarded Long Before any Legal Memos and not on any ticking time bomb scenario, either. But instead, Cheney was out to ’substantiate’ his Belief that Al Qaeda was in Iraq in ‘02 &#8211; as a pre-text for Invading. And, we know that Cheney and Bush clearly used Al-Libi’s Tortured Confession to Falsely Stoke the Fires of War.</p>
<p>That makes the effectiveness of August’s ‘Legally’ Word-Twisted ‘EITs’ no longer relevant in the face of a Flat-Out Statutory War Crime by Cheney the Previous April/May.</p>
<p>Which explains, imvho, why the Big Dog’s reply to Cheney’s Pugnacious “So?!” was “So, it’s Over!”</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh I agree with you. I was just noting that the decision for the silent treatment with Cheney began at the reunion and went from there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gonzo better watch it however. He would be the next in line to fall. Bush is a master at giving “false positives” as to who is in the power circle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And there is that “oil business” behind both Bush and Cheney which is a power struggle lurking in the shadows.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I agree with you. I was just noting that the decision for the silent treatment with Cheney began at the reunion and went from there.</p>
<p>Gonzo better watch it however. He would be the next in line to fall. Bush is a master at giving “false positives” as to who is in the power circle.</p>
<p>And there is that “oil business” behind both Bush and Cheney which is a power struggle lurking in the shadows.</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Cheyney is asking for something that he knows he’s not going to get.  Which means he’s safe if they prove to be damaging to his claim that valuable information was gotten by torturing prisoners.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The CIA’s refusal is based on the “It’s in litigation” claim.  And of course, they can sustain that forever, and neither they nor Dick Cheyney will have to deal with the reality of the torture results.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Certainly, Obama could throw his weight behind going after them, but with the DOJ moving to block the release of the abuse photos, that aint likely to happen.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All of this debate revolves around one thing and one thing only:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama and his administration do NOT want to mount a fishing expedition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Cheyney is asking for something that he knows he’s not going to get.  Which means he’s safe if they prove to be damaging to his claim that valuable information was gotten by torturing prisoners.   </p>
<p>The CIA’s refusal is based on the “It’s in litigation” claim.  And of course, they can sustain that forever, and neither they nor Dick Cheyney will have to deal with the reality of the torture results.   </p>
<p>Certainly, Obama could throw his weight behind going after them, but with the DOJ moving to block the release of the abuse photos, that aint likely to happen.   </p>
<p>All of this debate revolves around one thing and one thing only:</p>
<p>Obama and his administration do NOT want to mount a fishing expedition.</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How about this possible explanation:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheney is going down for the Capital Crime of Torture, and Bush is going to go down for the Constitutional Crime of Subverting the Rule of Law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m going to guess that all these former Bush Administration types finding reasons to be in DC are quietly giving ’save my ass’ depositions because Bush can’t save them from their Complicity anymore.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this possible explanation:</p>
<p>Cheney is going down for the Capital Crime of Torture, and Bush is going to go down for the Constitutional Crime of Subverting the Rule of Law.</p>
<p>I’m going to guess that all these former Bush Administration types finding reasons to be in DC are quietly giving ’save my ass’ depositions because Bush can’t save them from their Complicity anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: TheraP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheraP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wasn’t referring to the reunion.  I was referring to the Correspondent’s Dinner in DC, May 8th.  About a week after Condi’s video debut with the Stanford student.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s the trip I’m interested in.  Condi was in DC the previous weekend.  Then Gonzo, and you can see from &lt;a href=&quot;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/05/gonzo_goes_back_to_washington.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;, that people were surprised Gonzo would even go to such an event.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Therefore, I’m wondering what the &lt;em&gt;hidden agenda&lt;/em&gt; for that trip might have been.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The dog not barking…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn’t referring to the reunion.  I was referring to the Correspondent’s Dinner in DC, May 8th.  About a week after Condi’s video debut with the Stanford student.</p>
<p>That’s the trip I’m interested in.  Condi was in DC the previous weekend.  Then Gonzo, and you can see from <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2009/05/gonzo_goes_back_to_washington.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a>, that people were surprised Gonzo would even go to such an event.  </p>
<p>Therefore, I’m wondering what the <em>hidden agenda</em> for that trip might have been.  </p>
<p>The dog not barking…..</p>
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		<title>By: kpete</title>
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		<dc:creator>kpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Huge NYTimes AD! Conservatives Running Scared on Torture?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jenniemaria.com/?p=296&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jenniemaria.com/?p=296&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&amp;forum=389&amp;topic_id=5659913&amp;mesg_id=5659913&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.democraticundergrou…..id=5659913&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
luv this stimulating place…&lt;br /&gt;
kpete&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge NYTimes AD! Conservatives Running Scared on Torture?<br /><a href="http://www.jenniemaria.com/?p=296" rel="nofollow">http://www.jenniemaria.com/?p=296</a><br /><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&amp;forum=389&amp;topic_id=5659913&amp;mesg_id=5659913" rel="nofollow">http://www.democraticundergrou…..id=5659913</a><br />
luv this stimulating place…<br />
kpete</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A clear take on Bremer&lt;br /&gt;
No End in Sight” If you missed this documentary you missed an important resource&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“As soon as Bremer had made use of Sergio had made use of the UN he had almost no time for the UN”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“What Sergio lived through was two months of in effect being used as a vehicle to get to certain segments of Iraqi society. And then for his last month what he endured was not having his phone calls returned. And so on issues like detention policy, hoodings was one of the issues that Sergio raised again and again with Bremer and General Sanchez the hoodings of prisoners. BREMER WOULD HEAR NONE OF IT”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY</a></p>
<p>A clear take on Bremer<br />
No End in Sight” If you missed this documentary you missed an important resource<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvkF2D9JxY</a></p>
<p>“As soon as Bremer had made use of Sergio had made use of the UN he had almost no time for the UN”</p>
<p>“What Sergio lived through was two months of in effect being used as a vehicle to get to certain segments of Iraqi society. And then for his last month what he endured was not having his phone calls returned. And so on issues like detention policy, hoodings was one of the issues that Sergio raised again and again with Bremer and General Sanchez the hoodings of prisoners. BREMER WOULD HEAR NONE OF IT”</p>
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