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	<title>Comments on: Senate Judiciary Hearing on Torture</title>
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		<title>By: rschop</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-157070</link>
		<dc:creator>rschop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CNN is reporting right now on Ali H Soufan as he is testifying today, 5/13/2009, at congressional hearings. But beyond torture Soufan is important because of his detailed knowledge of what went on at the FBI and CIA prior to 9/11 that had allowed these attacks to take place. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His information  is so explosive that all mention of him was virtually stripped out of the 9/11 Commission report and even the DOJ IG report, when in fact he was lead investigator on the Cole bombing and knew more than anyone outside of FBI Agent Steve Bongardt,  his assistant on this investigation, on what occurred  that had prevented the FBI from stopping these attacks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is noted just once in the DOJ IG report as the NY FBI Agent that spoke fluent Arabic who flew out to talk to the FBI/CIA joint source in February 2001, to show the source the passport photo he had been given by the Yemen authorities of Walid Bin Attash, Khallad, the master mind of the Cole bombing. All of the CIA people involved including the CIA Bin Laden unit, the Yemen CIA station, and even the handler for the joint source kept secret the fact that on January 4, 2001, just one month before, Khallad had been positively identified by this same FBI/CIA source from a photo taken of him at the Kuala Lumpur meeting in January 2000, actually planning the Cole bombing with Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was at this point in time when the criminal actions at the CIA started in earnest to keep all information on this Kuala Lumpur meeting secret from the FBI Cole criminal investigators and to also keep secret the names of the people who had attended this meeting. This information that all three known al Qaeda terrorists  Khallad,  Mihdhar and Hazmi were at this meeting planning the Cole bombing was kept secret from the FBI Cole investigators until after the attacks on 9/11. Since the planning for the Cole bombing and the attacks on 9/11 took place at this same meeting, keeping this information secret from the FBI in a wide ranging criminal conspiracy led directly to the al Qaeda terrorists carrying out the successful attacks on 9/11. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what is most horrific is the CIA kept this information secret even when the CIA  knew both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside  of the US on August 22-23, 2001,  and knew these two al Qaeda terrorists were just about to take part in a massive attack that would kill thousands of Americans. The email from Tom Wilshire deputy chief of the CIA Bin Laden unit to his managers at the CTC on July 23, 2001 proves that not only did he know this but all of his CTC managers knew this.   His email also confirms that when they forbid him from giving the information on the Kuala Lumpur meeting to the FBI, and allowed him to continue to hide the photograph of Khallad taken at the Kuala Lumpur meeting, a photo that directly connected Mihdhar and Hazmi to the planning of the Cole bombing, the CIA was all fully aware that their actions would result in allowing Wilshire and FBI HQ IOS agents he had been working with to shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi. The CIA must have known that by shutting down the only investigation that could have found Mihdhar and Hazmi in time to prevent this attack,  that thousands of Americans would perish in the attacks that these terrorists were about to take part in. See web site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eventson911.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.eventson911.com&lt;/a&gt; for the US government’s own source documents that back up all of this information.  GO FIGURE!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN is reporting right now on Ali H Soufan as he is testifying today, 5/13/2009, at congressional hearings. But beyond torture Soufan is important because of his detailed knowledge of what went on at the FBI and CIA prior to 9/11 that had allowed these attacks to take place. </p>
<p>His information  is so explosive that all mention of him was virtually stripped out of the 9/11 Commission report and even the DOJ IG report, when in fact he was lead investigator on the Cole bombing and knew more than anyone outside of FBI Agent Steve Bongardt,  his assistant on this investigation, on what occurred  that had prevented the FBI from stopping these attacks. </p>
<p>He is noted just once in the DOJ IG report as the NY FBI Agent that spoke fluent Arabic who flew out to talk to the FBI/CIA joint source in February 2001, to show the source the passport photo he had been given by the Yemen authorities of Walid Bin Attash, Khallad, the master mind of the Cole bombing. All of the CIA people involved including the CIA Bin Laden unit, the Yemen CIA station, and even the handler for the joint source kept secret the fact that on January 4, 2001, just one month before, Khallad had been positively identified by this same FBI/CIA source from a photo taken of him at the Kuala Lumpur meeting in January 2000, actually planning the Cole bombing with Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi.</p>
<p>It was at this point in time when the criminal actions at the CIA started in earnest to keep all information on this Kuala Lumpur meeting secret from the FBI Cole criminal investigators and to also keep secret the names of the people who had attended this meeting. This information that all three known al Qaeda terrorists  Khallad,  Mihdhar and Hazmi were at this meeting planning the Cole bombing was kept secret from the FBI Cole investigators until after the attacks on 9/11. Since the planning for the Cole bombing and the attacks on 9/11 took place at this same meeting, keeping this information secret from the FBI in a wide ranging criminal conspiracy led directly to the al Qaeda terrorists carrying out the successful attacks on 9/11. </p>
<p>But what is most horrific is the CIA kept this information secret even when the CIA  knew both Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside  of the US on August 22-23, 2001,  and knew these two al Qaeda terrorists were just about to take part in a massive attack that would kill thousands of Americans. The email from Tom Wilshire deputy chief of the CIA Bin Laden unit to his managers at the CTC on July 23, 2001 proves that not only did he know this but all of his CTC managers knew this.   His email also confirms that when they forbid him from giving the information on the Kuala Lumpur meeting to the FBI, and allowed him to continue to hide the photograph of Khallad taken at the Kuala Lumpur meeting, a photo that directly connected Mihdhar and Hazmi to the planning of the Cole bombing, the CIA was all fully aware that their actions would result in allowing Wilshire and FBI HQ IOS agents he had been working with to shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi. The CIA must have known that by shutting down the only investigation that could have found Mihdhar and Hazmi in time to prevent this attack,  that thousands of Americans would perish in the attacks that these terrorists were about to take part in. See web site <a href="http://www.eventson911.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eventson911.com</a> for the US government’s own source documents that back up all of this information.  GO FIGURE!</p>
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		<title>By: GREYDOG</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156997</link>
		<dc:creator>GREYDOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Torture is a WAR CRIME. Anyone authorizing it, doing it, or refusing to prosecute it is a WAR CRIMINAL.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture is a WAR CRIME. Anyone authorizing it, doing it, or refusing to prosecute it is a WAR CRIMINAL.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156975</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;302s are written records of FBI interviews&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>302s are written records of FBI interviews</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156832</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;‘welcome…i’ve been trying to find parts for my anderson windows while doing this…heh….need the clip for the springs.&lt;br /&gt;
lookout if you undo the lock!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;evert double-hung window in my house has no ‘resistance’…all top-half-breeze windows now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;got the windows apart adn out to see what the problem is, now need to track down the spring clip parts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;found the parts page, no clips. guess i’ll resort to calling them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;tedious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘welcome…i’ve been trying to find parts for my anderson windows while doing this…heh….need the clip for the springs.<br />
lookout if you undo the lock!!!</p>
<p>evert double-hung window in my house has no ‘resistance’…all top-half-breeze windows now.</p>
<p>got the windows apart adn out to see what the problem is, now need to track down the spring clip parts.</p>
<p>found the parts page, no clips. guess i’ll resort to calling them.</p>
<p>tedious.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156819</link>
		<dc:creator>scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Someone could have some serious fun comparing and constrasting the statements Huckleberry (and other Rethugs) made about how great the Army Field Manual was to make sure that there would not be torture and how it was as far as we could go, and Huckleberry’s summation today about how it can’t be the be all and end all….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, he seems to think Cheney is still Vice President.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone could have some serious fun comparing and constrasting the statements Huckleberry (and other Rethugs) made about how great the Army Field Manual was to make sure that there would not be torture and how it was as far as we could go, and Huckleberry’s summation today about how it can’t be the be all and end all….</p>
<p>Also, he seems to think Cheney is still Vice President.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156814</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you Sir !&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sir !</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156813</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please join us upstairs on the &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New thread&lt;/a&gt; - we’re getting way up there in comment number.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please join us upstairs on the <a href="" rel="nofollow">New thread</a> &#8211; we’re getting way up there in comment number.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156810</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Huckleberry defends men who demonstrated poor judgment and criminal judgment by authorizing torture.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckleberry defends men who demonstrated poor judgment and criminal judgment by authorizing torture.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156809</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We bailed on the IMAX, we called and they said you would have to be there over an hour and a half ahead of time to get in.  As the IMAX theater was 20 miles away, we opted for the regular theater 3 miles away.  Movie was freaking great though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We bailed on the IMAX, we called and they said you would have to be there over an hour and a half ahead of time to get in.  As the IMAX theater was 20 miles away, we opted for the regular theater 3 miles away.  Movie was freaking great though.</p>
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		<title>By: pmorlan</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/13/senate-judiciary-hearing-on-torture/#comment-156802</link>
		<dc:creator>pmorlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s what I was looking for. Where can we access those?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s what I was looking for. Where can we access those?</p>
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