Comments on: al-Libi Dies in a Libyan Prison

By: Rayne

Rayne — Tue, 12 May 2009 02:37:01 +0000

At least 3 of the detainees you’ve listed were reported by ABC as transferred from Szymany, Poland to the black site in Mauritania in late 2005:

- Hassan Ghul
- Abdul Rahim al-Sharqawi
- Mohammed Omar Abdul-Rahman

Need to know who else is stuck in the middle of B.F. Mauritania.

By: spoonful

spoonful — Tue, 12 May 2009 00:25:03 +0000

It seems that with the release of more and more information regarding this issue, the more Obama seems inclined to permit the wheels of justice to turn. I believe this turnaround is due to constant hammering away by the true patriots of this country like the ACLU and the writers of this Site who expose the truth about our government’s war crimes. This role of conveying such important information was a role formerly played by some of the great newspapers of the last century, but we’ve all seen what’s happened to them . . .

By: leveymg

leveymg — Mon, 11 May 2009 23:27:38 +0000

There are some more questions about al-Libi’s death. Why has no one been asking about the other at least 10 CIA “ghost prisoners” who have disappeared, their whereabouts and means of interrogation still unacknowledged by the CIA? Why were these prisoners disappeared, while others ended up alive in GITMO?

More on this at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....ed-Suicide

By: MaryCh

MaryCh — Mon, 11 May 2009 22:59:45 +0000

Despite all that is Cheney, I gotta go with GWB as a condition precedent — without his candidacy/selection we wouldn’t have gotten 4th Branch.

By: Palli

Palli — Mon, 11 May 2009 21:23:14 +0000

Sadly, it all is important…the total picture of depravity. Which particular offence against humanity is going to burst the bubble of indifference in any one individual human we don’t know, so all must be exposed.

By: mui1

mui1 — Mon, 11 May 2009 20:28:10 +0000

I think all those are important. Prisoners contracting TB as well as AIDS and other illness after being held by the US, or in US custody is also important. During the holocaust, persons had their citizenship stripped away, were detained at concentration camps and were murdered by gaschamber or murdered by murderous conditions. I’m going to guess far more people in camps ended up dying of typhus etc. It’s hard to argue which is the “worst.”
I don’t think dirty prisons should be considered a “tangent”. They are part of the whole picture. Not the only part of course. I also think it could be another darn good talking point for closing GITMO inc down. Of course wingnuts would say liberals want to “unleash” infected people on the population at large, but for all we know Rush’s sex tourism has gotten him some nasty illness, so he shouldn’t be one to talk.

By: Rayne

Rayne — Mon, 11 May 2009 19:20:48 +0000

I think it could go to intent, if it can be shown that there was a systemic indifference to the care and welfare of the detainees.

But the transfers, torture, and withholding of information about al-Libi as well as other detainees are likely to be seen as more egregious violations of Article 3 under Geneva Convention, and again as violations under UNCAT.

With the numbers stacking up, it’s going to very difficult to show something other than an intent to systematically abuse civil rights.

By: TheraP

TheraP — Mon, 11 May 2009 19:11:22 +0000

Sorry I got off on a tangent. It started with some questions about TB. I gave it too much thought. My apologies.

By: lysias

lysias — Mon, 11 May 2009 18:28:08 +0000

The others could arguably be defended as an attempt to get vital intelligence.

The failure to provide sanitary conditions exhibits, if not an intent to kill, then at least a grossly negligent intent not to strive to keep alive.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Mon, 11 May 2009 18:27:13 +0000

I agree. It is an interesting sidelight, but not the critical point here.