Comments on: CIA Lying to ABC about Torture. Again. ABC Reporting It Uncritically. Again.

By: nadezhda

nadezhda — Fri, 08 May 2009 21:51:50 +0000

We now have at least a partial response from Rockefeller in an email response to Zach Roth at TPM (see 2nd update to TPMMuckraker post):

Sen. Rockefeller’s office emails the following statement:
S
enator Rockefeller was briefed but was not presented with the full picture nor was he told critical information that would have cast significant doubt on the program’s legality and effectiveness. Senator Rockefeller became increasingly concerned about the program, and in early 2005 he launched a full-scale effort to investigate. The Senate Intelligence Committee’s review is ongoing and he believes it is critically important that there be a full accounting of the Bush Administration’s interrogation policies.

Rockefeller still isn’t specifying when he was first briefed. In his email he doesn’t specifically dispute the CIA memo’s apparent claim in the asterisk that he received, at some later date, the same (full?) briefing as Roberts did on Feb 2 2003. However, Rockefeller does look to be suggesting in today’s email that the implication of the CIA memo — that is, that he was fully briefed in early 2003 — is erroneous.

By: drational

drational — Fri, 08 May 2009 20:01:59 +0000

agree 100%.

By: TheraP

TheraP — Fri, 08 May 2009 19:52:53 +0000

Hate to say it, but they’ve been a bit off their game of late. Not sure why. Maybe trying to cover too much. Thereby losing the thread of the most important story of our time. Breaks my heart actually. As so many people who post here I first me over there. EW is currently the best game in town, when it comes to this topic. *imvho*

By: MarilynSanAntone

MarilynSanAntone — Fri, 08 May 2009 18:48:38 +0000

I read those comments in the WP and was surprised at the venom against Pelosi that characterized almost all of them. Whatever she did or didn’t do pales in comparison to the Machavelian actions of the true criminals… the Bush adm. torturers and liars.

While I can see the necessity in having some state secrets, I believe the whole concept of classified data needs a do over. The crimes, the cover up, the lying were all part of an attempt to make the repugs look good..heroic..strong. Their best efforts were applied to hoodwink the nation and, therefore, to assure a second term.

What I want is continued revelations building to a public crescendo…hopefully resulting in a special counsel (prosecutor) but a lasting stain on the Bush administration and all his cohorts.

By: drational

drational — Fri, 08 May 2009 17:49:52 +0000

@67
You should say next under the bus is Zachary Roth and the usually excellent TPM muckraker for shoddy “reporting”.

By: Dalybean

Dalybean — Fri, 08 May 2009 17:38:43 +0000

Next under the bus, Rockefeller. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....hp?ref=fp1

Possible reasons include his position on Iran.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01.....ei=5087%0A

By: Dalybean

Dalybean — Fri, 08 May 2009 17:09:13 +0000

It’s not just Republicans who are after Pelosi. The AIPAC crowd is after her too and is amplifying the message in order to force her to support draconian sanctions on Iran.

By: TheraP

TheraP — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:52:33 +0000

Not sure why. But I’ve gotten 2 delivery status notification failures, sending to that address. You may have blocked anyone but certain folks. If so, I’m with the “research” part. And will await further notification.

By: TheraP

TheraP — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:46:23 +0000

Plus, from what we can see now, as laid out so well on this thread (here and above), is that the military is the force that saved us from a total take-over by the treasonous criminals of the previous badministration:

When the dust finally settles, I think We’ll find that the Republic was Saved because the Uniformed Military stood their ground and defended the Geneva Conventions against Bush’s Ideology-Over-the-Rule-of-Law assault - and that, ultimately, when Bush lost the support of the Military, he was left the Omnipotent UE in name only - no longer able to back up any threats to suspend the Congress and place the Country under Martial Law in his Phony War on Terror.

By: TheraP

TheraP — Fri, 08 May 2009 16:39:05 +0000

Yes, I think you’re right about that - the informatics. And that’s not me. I will do my part. I am in this for the long haul. I have no personal stake in any of it (except as a citizen). Or fear of these folks. It’s a duty as I view it. So I’m being pulled into this. And I want to do my part. And enlist help. (We could get various groups going on this, I think. I’ve got my folks at TPM Cafe who might sign on as well.)

I am 100% with you in the view that these folks are running scared now! They are doing what they can to try and influence public opinion at home. But the real trump card, as I see it, is abroad. The Spanish cases. The Polish prosecutor. EU is doing something as I understand it. And it’s not just high up. People are enraged.

Your psychological reading of the tea leaves is right on!