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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are some funny fight songs: Albion College – Fyte Onne!&lt;br /&gt;
Appalachian State University – Hi Hi Yikas&lt;br /&gt;
Barry University – Go Barry Go&lt;br /&gt;
University of Chicago –  Scholarly Yells&lt;br /&gt;
University of Denver – Fairest of Colleges&lt;br /&gt;
Earlham College – “Fight Fight Inner Light”; “Battle Hymn of the Quakers”; “Theme of the Quaker Army”; “How Can We Keep from Scoring”; “Rah–Rah–Rio–Rem”; “Etc.”&lt;br /&gt;
The Evergreen State College – The Geoduck Fight Song&lt;br /&gt;
Gustavus Adolphus College – Gustie Rouser&lt;br /&gt;
Guadalajara Autonomous University (UAG) Himnos Tecos!&lt;br /&gt;
University of Hawai’i – Co-Ed Fight Song&lt;br /&gt;
College of the Holy Cross – Chu-Chu Rah-Rah&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus College, Oxford – Exeter Wank Wank Wank&lt;br /&gt;
Kalamazoo College – All Hail to Kazoo&lt;br /&gt;
Massachusetts Institute of Technology – The Engineer’s Drinking Song&lt;br /&gt;
University of Oxford – Shoo The Tabs or Shoe The Tabs&lt;br /&gt;
University of Pennsylvania - Drink a Highball, The Battle Cry of Penn (Hang Jeff Davis)&lt;br /&gt;
University of Puget Sound - Fight for UPS&lt;br /&gt;
Purdue University - Hail Purdue!&lt;br /&gt;
Queen’s University – Queen’s College Colours, also called the Oil Thigh&lt;br /&gt;
University of Richmond – Spider Born&lt;br /&gt;
St. Olaf College – Um Ya Ya&lt;br /&gt;
Syracuse University –  The Saltine Warrior&lt;br /&gt;
Whittier College – Go Poets!&lt;br /&gt;
Wichita State University – Shocker Fight Song&lt;br /&gt;
William Jewell College – Fight William Jewell&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some funny fight songs: Albion College – Fyte Onne!<br />
Appalachian State University – Hi Hi Yikas<br />
Barry University – Go Barry Go<br />
University of Chicago –  Scholarly Yells<br />
University of Denver – Fairest of Colleges<br />
Earlham College – “Fight Fight Inner Light”; “Battle Hymn of the Quakers”; “Theme of the Quaker Army”; “How Can We Keep from Scoring”; “Rah–Rah–Rio–Rem”; “Etc.”<br />
The Evergreen State College – The Geoduck Fight Song<br />
Gustavus Adolphus College – Gustie Rouser<br />
Guadalajara Autonomous University (UAG) Himnos Tecos!<br />
University of Hawai’i – Co-Ed Fight Song<br />
College of the Holy Cross – Chu-Chu Rah-Rah<br />
Jesus College, Oxford – Exeter Wank Wank Wank<br />
Kalamazoo College – All Hail to Kazoo<br />
Massachusetts Institute of Technology – The Engineer’s Drinking Song<br />
University of Oxford – Shoo The Tabs or Shoe The Tabs<br />
University of Pennsylvania &#8211; Drink a Highball, The Battle Cry of Penn (Hang Jeff Davis)<br />
University of Puget Sound &#8211; Fight for UPS<br />
Purdue University &#8211; Hail Purdue!<br />
Queen’s University – Queen’s College Colours, also called the Oil Thigh<br />
University of Richmond – Spider Born<br />
St. Olaf College – Um Ya Ya<br />
Syracuse University –  The Saltine Warrior<br />
Whittier College – Go Poets!<br />
Wichita State University – Shocker Fight Song<br />
William Jewell College – Fight William Jewell</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluetoe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;98% of the “journalists” in the corporate media are chumps.  Everyone knows it but the chumps themselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>98% of the “journalists” in the corporate media are chumps.  Everyone knows it but the chumps themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chumperiffic!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chumperiffic!</p>
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		<title>By: matutinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>matutinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of Harvard, reminds me of (Brooklyn-born) Prof. William Alfred’s example of high, medium and low diction:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The agony has abated.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The pain has stopped.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It don’t hoit any more.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Harvard, reminds me of (Brooklyn-born) Prof. William Alfred’s example of high, medium and low diction:</p>
<p>“The agony has abated.”</p>
<p>“The pain has stopped.”</p>
<p>“It don’t hoit any more.”</p>
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		<title>By: posaune</title>
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		<dc:creator>posaune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey PD,  what year you?  school?&lt;br /&gt;
I’m GSAPP 1991.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey PD,  what year you?  school?<br />
I’m GSAPP 1991.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;passing the buck seems to be as contagious as the swine flu&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; We have witnessed this administration get off for lying about intelligence, starting a completely unnecessary war, outing an undercover agent (well I guess Libby losing his license was something), undermining the DOJ, illegal wiretapping.  Now we have alleged spies not even going to trial why Larry Franklin was left holding the goods.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will we ever witness anyone held accountable for this torture?&lt;br /&gt;
Never a time like now to say “when pigs fly” or “when pigs have wings”  Especially with the swine flu filling the air waves&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can the swine flu be carried by birds?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shvoong.com/exact-sciences/biology/1741302-bird-flu-genes-new-swine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.shvoong.com/exact-s.....new-swine/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>passing the buck seems to be as contagious as the swine flu</p>
<p> We have witnessed this administration get off for lying about intelligence, starting a completely unnecessary war, outing an undercover agent (well I guess Libby losing his license was something), undermining the DOJ, illegal wiretapping.  Now we have alleged spies not even going to trial why Larry Franklin was left holding the goods.</p>
<p>Will we ever witness anyone held accountable for this torture?<br />
Never a time like now to say “when pigs fly” or “when pigs have wings”  Especially with the swine flu filling the air waves</p>
<p>Can the swine flu be carried by birds?<br /><a href="http://www.shvoong.com/exact-sciences/biology/1741302-bird-flu-genes-new-swine/" rel="nofollow">http://www.shvoong.com/exact-s&#8230;..new-swine/</a></p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 10:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really must get this time thing in phase some day …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=19&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cumb.org%2Fsounds.php&amp;ei=3Rz8Sey6NZPGMozE8dAE&amp;rct=j&amp;q=who+owns+new+york+columbia&amp;usg=AFQjCNE1FnGBevIMXfDJjnX3wE_nFT9Bxg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Who Owns New York&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Oh, who owns New York?&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, who owns New York?&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, who owns New York the people say.&lt;br /&gt;
Why, we own New York!&lt;br /&gt;
Why, we own New York!&lt;br /&gt;
C-O-L-U-M-B-I-A!
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Proof in the form of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/manhattan/uppermanhattan/harlemriver/spuytenduyvil-highbridge/11c.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one jpeg image&lt;/a&gt; from the Harlem River page at the Bridge and Tunnel Club website; a little story about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikicu.com/Columbia_C&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No one ever played that “Roar Lion, Roar” thing when I was there. We have one of those beefeater guys too, who marches in academic processions. (The last one passed away not long ago.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Got to agree about “The Victors” though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really must get this time thing in phase some day …</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=19&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cumb.org%2Fsounds.php&amp;ei=3Rz8Sey6NZPGMozE8dAE&amp;rct=j&amp;q=who+owns+new+york+columbia&amp;usg=AFQjCNE1FnGBevIMXfDJjnX3wE_nFT9Bxg" rel="nofollow">Who Owns New York</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
Oh, who owns New York?<br />
Oh, who owns New York?<br />
Oh, who owns New York the people say.<br />
Why, we own New York!<br />
Why, we own New York!<br />
C-O-L-U-M-B-I-A!
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<p>Proof in the form of <a href="http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/manhattan/uppermanhattan/harlemriver/spuytenduyvil-highbridge/11c.jpg" rel="nofollow">one jpeg image</a> from the Harlem River page at the Bridge and Tunnel Club website; a little story about it <a href="http://www.wikicu.com/Columbia_C" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>No one ever played that “Roar Lion, Roar” thing when I was there. We have one of those beefeater guys too, who marches in academic processions. (The last one passed away not long ago.)</p>
<p>Got to agree about “The Victors” though.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 09:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, that’s the wrong way to frame it. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/01/shifts/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glenn Greenwald&lt;/a&gt;, and scroll down to “Update II”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that’s the wrong way to frame it. See <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/01/shifts/index.html" rel="nofollow">Glenn Greenwald</a>, and scroll down to “Update II”.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 08:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT, but certainly of a piece with knowing which questions not to ask about the torture issue, is this, where it looks like Obama caved on dropping the charges against the two AIPAC honchos:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jta.org/news/article/2009/05/01/1004853/lawyers-credit-obama-team-for-dismissing-aipac-case&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jta.org/news/article/20.....aipac-case&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but certainly of a piece with knowing which questions not to ask about the torture issue, is this, where it looks like Obama caved on dropping the charges against the two AIPAC honchos:</p>
<p><a href="http://jta.org/news/article/2009/05/01/1004853/lawyers-credit-obama-team-for-dismissing-aipac-case" rel="nofollow">http://jta.org/news/article/20&#8230;..aipac-case</a></p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 07:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, yes! I remember it now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes! I remember it now.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Bob in HI</p>
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