Comments on: Obama and State Secrets http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: tjbs http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153152 tjbs Fri, 01 May 2009 10:55:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153152 <p>In a two inch circle above his eyes and military doctors were prevented from completing their investigation.</p> In a two inch circle above his eyes and military doctors were prevented from completing their investigation.

]]> By: bobschacht http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153151 bobschacht Fri, 01 May 2009 08:34:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153151 <p>Yes, this is exactly why we need CONGRESS to do its fookin’ job!</p> <p>For the past 8 years, Democrats have been falling all over themselves trying to hand George W. Bush MORE POWER for some undiscernible reason. They have spent 8 years emasculating themselves. I want a congress that upholds its Constitutional responsibilities!!!</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> Yes, this is exactly why we need CONGRESS to do its fookin’ job!

For the past 8 years, Democrats have been falling all over themselves trying to hand George W. Bush MORE POWER for some undiscernible reason. They have spent 8 years emasculating themselves. I want a congress that upholds its Constitutional responsibilities!!!

Bob in HI

]]> By: emerson http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153138 emerson Fri, 01 May 2009 04:32:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153138 <p>I was trying to infer that at 21, but I did it badly. I agree it is a possibility.</p> I was trying to infer that at 21, but I did it badly. I agree it is a possibility.

]]> By: Hugh http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153136 Hugh Fri, 01 May 2009 04:16:14 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153136 <p>I still find this exchange the best take on all questions concerning Presidential powers:</p> <blockquote><p>BILL MOYERS: Do you expect either John McCain or Barack Obama to rein in the “imperial presidency?” </p> <p>ANDREW BACEVICH: No. I mean, people run for the presidency in order to become imperial presidents. The people who are advising these candidates, the people who aspire to be the next national security advisor, the next secretary of defense, these are people who yearn to exercise those kind of great powers.</p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08152008/transcript1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour.....ript1.html</a></p> I still find this exchange the best take on all questions concerning Presidential powers:

BILL MOYERS: Do you expect either John McCain or Barack Obama to rein in the “imperial presidency?”

ANDREW BACEVICH: No. I mean, people run for the presidency in order to become imperial presidents. The people who are advising these candidates, the people who aspire to be the next national security advisor, the next secretary of defense, these are people who yearn to exercise those kind of great powers.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour…..ript1.html

]]> By: siri http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153132 siri Fri, 01 May 2009 03:33:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153132 <p>INAL, but<br /> it occurs me, listening to PREZ Obi, as opposed to Candidate Obi, that maybe he needs to keep these things open (like the FISA fiasco), to support them, for NOW. he needs the tools created by the criminals to overrun and expose (in whatever form) the criminals, and then turn things back around to what’s legally defined per the Constitution.</p> <p>i know this may not make a lot of sense here and now,<br /> but<br /> he WANTS to keep these powers to enact what he’s going for here. take the power and use it, then use it one last time to see that it never gets used again.<br /> maybe………….<br /> maybe that’s my hope coupled with limited knowledge, but COULD BE the <em>master plan</em>…..</p> INAL, but
it occurs me, listening to PREZ Obi, as opposed to Candidate Obi, that maybe he needs to keep these things open (like the FISA fiasco), to support them, for NOW. he needs the tools created by the criminals to overrun and expose (in whatever form) the criminals, and then turn things back around to what’s legally defined per the Constitution.

i know this may not make a lot of sense here and now,
but
he WANTS to keep these powers to enact what he’s going for here. take the power and use it, then use it one last time to see that it never gets used again.
maybe………….
maybe that’s my hope coupled with limited knowledge, but COULD BE the master plan…..

]]> By: allan http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153128 allan Fri, 01 May 2009 03:20:37 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153128 <p>For example, Specter voted against the cramdown today,<br /> and has announced opposition to Dawn Johnsen.<br /> He’s worse than Joe L., which is saying a lot.</p> For example, Specter voted against the cramdown today,
and has announced opposition to Dawn Johnsen.
He’s worse than Joe L., which is saying a lot.

]]> By: RevDeb http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153124 RevDeb Fri, 01 May 2009 03:14:40 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153124 <p>can’t count on <strike>Arlen</strike> Scrapple. ever. for anything. Like WT pointed out, he’s the scorpion Harry’s the frog. Harry’s gonna get stung, it’s the only think<strike> Arlen</strike> Scrapple knows how to do.</p> can’t count on Arlen Scrapple. ever. for anything. Like WT pointed out, he’s the scorpion Harry’s the frog. Harry’s gonna get stung, it’s the only think Arlen Scrapple knows how to do.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153122 ThingsComeUndone Fri, 01 May 2009 03:09:54 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153122 <p>What are you suggesting?</p> What are you suggesting?

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153121 ThingsComeUndone Fri, 01 May 2009 03:08:11 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153121 <p>We have to start thinking about who we can get on thats good on the court.<br /> with Al Franken coming in I guess we will see if Arlen is worth everything the Dems gave him to cross over.<br /> If Arlen does not want a Primary Challenge he better vote our way on this.</p> We have to start thinking about who we can get on thats good on the court.
with Al Franken coming in I guess we will see if Arlen is worth everything the Dems gave him to cross over.
If Arlen does not want a Primary Challenge he better vote our way on this.

]]> By: RevDeb http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153119 RevDeb Fri, 01 May 2009 03:07:04 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/30/obama-and-state-secrets/#comment-153119 <p>Ew isn’t a lawyer but LHP is. Christy would be awesome, huh? In our dreams at least.</p> Ew isn’t a lawyer but LHP is. Christy would be awesome, huh? In our dreams at least.

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