Comments on: Who Gave James Mitchell the Al-Qaeda Resistance Manual?

By: Edger

Edger — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:19:21 +0000

The Ipcress File is available to download from a variety of sites, as well:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl.....cress+File

You’ll need a file sharing app such as bittorent or another.

By: timbo

timbo — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:46:35 +0000

Getting there, EW. Has anyone actually verified that these Al Qaeda training manuals weren’t 1) derived from CIA works originally…and if so, originals at CIA written by whom for the Muhadejin fighting in the 1980s or 2) fakes generated by persons (unknown?) to ramp up USA torture? I remember when these documents were “found” in Afganistan in 2001 and announced publicly. Why were they announced publicly? And who helped the Muhadejin in the 1980s with their insurgency training from CIA?

By: Arishia

Arishia — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:32:13 +0000

First let me say I’m just a housewife and just getting into all this material. The first thought that came to mind regarding an AlQueda manuel for resistance to interrogation that I had was this. We(CIA) trained the Mujahideen, they became AlQueda, so perhaps we gave them the resistance techniques in the first place. That would make it easy to ‘discover’ a manual in Arabic describing these techniques. This whole thing seems so incestuous to me. That we trained them and now we are fighting them. Next time someone says we are fighting terrorists remember who made them terrorists. Maybe we are fighting ourselves, well, the dark side we have promoted through the CIA. Seems every time we go to the dark side, it gets away from us and comes back to bite us.

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:53:06 +0000

This book is the memoirs of an Iranian Communist. All brothers should read it.

Doesn’t that seem an odd statement from a bunch of Sunni Jihadis?

By: lysias

lysias — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:53:02 +0000

The Ipcress File is available on (Region 2) DVD from the UK. As it happens, I put it on my Wish List with amazon.uk last week. I expect to be ordering it one of these days.

By: prostratedragon

prostratedragon — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:20:13 +0000

Two-and-a-half minutes of a dream-mashup of reality in a Communist “indoctrination” session with a subject’s rather flawed memory of it (or maybe he just kept the relevant metadata):

Excerpt, The Manchurian Candidate (1961)

By: rkilowatt

rkilowatt — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:22:13 +0000

Well and clearly stated. And very workable supposition.

By: pdaly

pdaly — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:26:31 +0000

thanks for the details. Had no idea about the MI-6 connection or the unit to kill Khadaffi.

By: pdaly

pdaly — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:23:21 +0000

I don’t have an answer to your question, but I finally found a reference that I have been searching for for weeks. It is a reference at historycommons.com to the 9/12/01 National Security Council meeting where then AG Ashcroft overrules FBI Director Mueller’s comment about collecting evidence properly so as to secure proper convictions of terrorists. History Commons states it is in Woodward’s book Bush At War, page 42-43

During a National Security Council meeting, FBI Director Robert Mueller begins to describe the investigation under way to identify the 9/11 hijackers. According to journalist Bob Woodward, “He said it was essential not to taint any evidence so that if accomplices were arrested, they could be convicted.” But Attorney General John Ashcroft interrupts. Woodward will paraphrase Ashcroft saying, “The chief mission of US law enforcement… is to stop another attack and apprehend any accomplices or terrorists before they hit us again. If we can’t bring them to trial, so be it.” Woodward will comment, “Now, Ashcroft was saying, the focus of the FBI and the Justice Department should change from prosecution to prevention, a radical shift in priorities.” President Bush is at the meeting and apparently does not challenge Ashcroft’s suggestion.

I don’t own this book, so I must have read it somewhere else. Maybe a different Woodward book?

In any case, I wonder if there are any “whatever it takes” presidential findings or memoranda to deal with al Qaeda members already in custody? I keep coming back to the 9/12/01 unprecedented directive to FBI interrogator Soufan.

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:03:02 +0000

The timeline makes that characterization very probable. Drugstore cowboys also buy faux ranches, and “clear brush” instead of ride the range because they’re afraid of horses, until their spouse tells them to put away their toys, and makes them sell up and move back to suburbia.

What do community organizers do when they win the jackpot and have the power they dreamt of having when they didn’t have two Ben Franklins to rub together? Do they make theirs dreams a reality or dream away the reality they’d rather not devise a policy to deal with?