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	<title>Comments on: Judge Hellerstein Spanks (Figuratively) the CIA</title>
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		<title>By: stryder</title>
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		<dc:creator>stryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OOOH NO YOU DON’T&lt;br /&gt;
I’m NOT GETTING MY HOPES UP AGAIN&lt;br /&gt;
All this shit will get accumulated and go right up to the supremes an WA LA&lt;br /&gt;
POOF the bottom falls out&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing is going to happen to these thugs&lt;br /&gt;
Tell the Saudi royals,Blair and his crowd ,half the bank ceos,90% of the defense contractors,Phone co ceos,50% of the house of reps and 75$ of the senate 50% of the judges and atty gens that there all invited to go on an international cruise and when the ship gets into shark infested waters&lt;br /&gt;
SINK IT&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOH NO YOU DON’T<br />
I’m NOT GETTING MY HOPES UP AGAIN<br />
All this shit will get accumulated and go right up to the supremes an WA LA<br />
POOF the bottom falls out<br />
Nothing is going to happen to these thugs<br />
Tell the Saudi royals,Blair and his crowd ,half the bank ceos,90% of the defense contractors,Phone co ceos,50% of the house of reps and 75$ of the senate 50% of the judges and atty gens that there all invited to go on an international cruise and when the ship gets into shark infested waters<br />
SINK IT</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-151031</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It would have been interesting…what would McCain have done once he finally attained his long desired apogee? Would he have betrayed the only principle that he could actually claim was derived from his personal experience - his opposition to torture? Certainly many in his Administration and those of the Bush-era would have screamed bloody hell if he made a squeak about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the same time, McCain could have told them to take a hike. He could have become an Eisenhower. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m waiting for him to make a comment on the current revelations…but haven’t heard anything. Maybe he’s waiting to see just how bad it really turns out to be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been interesting…what would McCain have done once he finally attained his long desired apogee? Would he have betrayed the only principle that he could actually claim was derived from his personal experience &#8211; his opposition to torture? Certainly many in his Administration and those of the Bush-era would have screamed bloody hell if he made a squeak about it.</p>
<p>At the same time, McCain could have told them to take a hike. He could have become an Eisenhower. </p>
<p>I’m waiting for him to make a comment on the current revelations…but haven’t heard anything. Maybe he’s waiting to see just how bad it really turns out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: obsessed</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150994</link>
		<dc:creator>obsessed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d like to hear the “accidentally live mic” audio from Peggy’s reaction when she finally sees the torture evidence. I think she’ll like it less than she liked Sarah P.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to hear the “accidentally live mic” audio from Peggy’s reaction when she finally sees the torture evidence. I think she’ll like it less than she liked Sarah P.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150982</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so we get to see what peggy nooners says should remain a mystery&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;spin that away, you mysterious piece of shit&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;at what point do these depraved assholes look at the camera and hold up the “Yikes” sign ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we’re gonna see what you were defending, pegger, and you are defending a DUNG HEAP&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that ain’t egg, honey&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and you got it ALL OVER YOUR FACE&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so we get to see what peggy nooners says should remain a mystery</p>
<p>spin that away, you mysterious piece of shit</p>
<p>at what point do these depraved assholes look at the camera and hold up the “Yikes” sign ???</p>
<p>we’re gonna see what you were defending, pegger, and you are defending a DUNG HEAP</p>
<p>that ain’t egg, honey</p>
<p>and you got it ALL OVER YOUR FACE</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150980</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanx for those links, one more point;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a July 2002 document uncovered by the Washington Post, the military’s Joint Personnel Recovery Agency warned that the Bush administration’s interrogation program was “torture”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the president is told with no doubt by the military themselves, this IS torture, now connect the dots as follows;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The unintended consequence of a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. personnel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;once you are informed by your experts that you are causing this consequence and yet you continue, this is no longer “unintended”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you have infact intended for consequences you know as a fact will result&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bing, an enemy of our state, this is clear&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanx for those links, one more point;</p>
<blockquote><p>In a July 2002 document uncovered by the Washington Post, the military’s Joint Personnel Recovery Agency warned that the Bush administration’s interrogation program was “torture”</p>
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<p>the president is told with no doubt by the military themselves, this IS torture, now connect the dots as follows;</p>
<blockquote><p>The unintended consequence of a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. personnel.</p>
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<p>once you are informed by your experts that you are causing this consequence and yet you continue, this is no longer “unintended”</p>
<p>you have infact intended for consequences you know as a fact will result</p>
<p>bing, an enemy of our state, this is clear</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150963</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do you suppose that the name “Blackwater” shows up in any of the contractors who were involved?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you suppose that the name “Blackwater” shows up in any of the contractors who were involved?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: antibanana</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150962</link>
		<dc:creator>antibanana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With respect to contractors, here’s a good place to start:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13993&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13993&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Intelligence in Iraq: L-3 Supplies Spy Support&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Halliburton, L-3/Titan, and Brent Wilkes (only tangentially) all in one article! And lots of links.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to contractors, here’s a good place to start:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13993" rel="nofollow">http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13993</a></p>
<p>Intelligence in Iraq: L-3 Supplies Spy Support</p>
<p>Halliburton, L-3/Titan, and Brent Wilkes (only tangentially) all in one article! And lots of links.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150954</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really REALLY think we need to find out who hired those involved in the torture programs, I am willing to bet they were recruited by Cheney or his team b and THAT would be the final nail in the coffin if we can demonstrate that as a fact&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really REALLY think we need to find out who hired those involved in the torture programs, I am willing to bet they were recruited by Cheney or his team b and THAT would be the final nail in the coffin if we can demonstrate that as a fact</p>
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		<title>By: antibanana</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150952</link>
		<dc:creator>antibanana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another shoe drops… &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We now know why the OLC was so keen on demonstrating the “effectiveness” of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques. Because the military told them that they were a very bad idea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somehow, I am getting the feeling that there are a lot of p-offed military people out there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another shoe drops… </p>
<p>We now know why the OLC was so keen on demonstrating the “effectiveness” of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques. Because the military told them that they were a very bad idea.</p>
<p>Somehow, I am getting the feeling that there are a lot of p-offed military people out there.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/judge-hellerstein-spanks-figuratively-the-cia/#comment-150951</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;this is getting good&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;indeed, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/24/2002-jpra-torture/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it is&lt;/a&gt;;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Military agency warned Bush administration in 2002 that its interrogation program was ‘torture.’ &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that’s think progress’s link with comentary and quote;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a July 2002 document uncovered by the Washington Post, &lt;strong&gt;the military’s Joint Personnel Recovery Agency warned that the Bush administration’s interrogation program was “torture”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it goes on to comentary on some of the consequences;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[torture] would produce “unreliable information.”&lt;/strong&gt; JPRA is the military agency that ran the program known as Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), “which trains pilots and others to resist hostile questioning.” JPRA warned in the 2002 document:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my bold is more indicting then it seems at first read, assets are finite and inadaquate, waste those assets on just one false lead and you might cost lives, waste those assets on leads you know as a fact are unreliable and you are deliberately obstructing your ability for success&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the president knew in NO uncertain terms he was committing torture, there is simply no two ways around this, and it gets worse, FAR worse, for a man and party who tried to brand themselves as the party of the armed forces this next bit is absolutely anialative;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The unintended consequence of &lt;strong&gt;a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. personnel.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not only “could” but definately WILL, and the only method for overcoming this “unintended consequence” is to prosecute those who committed this act against our armed forces&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>this is getting good</p>
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<p>indeed, <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/24/2002-jpra-torture/" rel="nofollow">it is</a>;</p>
<blockquote><p>Military agency warned Bush administration in 2002 that its interrogation program was ‘torture.’ </p>
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<p>that’s think progress’s link with comentary and quote;</p>
<blockquote><p>In a July 2002 document uncovered by the Washington Post, <strong>the military’s Joint Personnel Recovery Agency warned that the Bush administration’s interrogation program was “torture”</strong></p>
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<p>it goes on to comentary on some of the consequences;</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>[torture] would produce “unreliable information.”</strong> JPRA is the military agency that ran the program known as Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), “which trains pilots and others to resist hostile questioning.” JPRA warned in the 2002 document:</p>
</blockquote>
<p>my bold is more indicting then it seems at first read, assets are finite and inadaquate, waste those assets on just one false lead and you might cost lives, waste those assets on leads you know as a fact are unreliable and you are deliberately obstructing your ability for success</p>
<p>the president knew in NO uncertain terms he was committing torture, there is simply no two ways around this, and it gets worse, FAR worse, for a man and party who tried to brand themselves as the party of the armed forces this next bit is absolutely anialative;</p>
<blockquote><p>The unintended consequence of <strong>a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. personnel.</strong></p>
</blockquote>
<p>not only “could” but definately WILL, and the only method for overcoming this “unintended consequence” is to prosecute those who committed this act against our armed forces</p>
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