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	<title>Comments on: Cheney Cherry Picks Intelligence Again</title>
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		<title>By: pkdu</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/cheney-cherry-picks-intelligence-again/comment-page-2/#comment-151156</link>
		<dc:creator>pkdu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a little aside about Cheney’s request (as pointed out above , its a Presidential Libraries Mandatory Review Request)…. in January of this year he “lost” in court trying to exempt his records from the Presidential Records Act on leaving office - and essentially be able to taake it all with him. The judge said that she would &lt;strong&gt;“But she also said she would “rely on a sworn promise by O’Donnell that everything the vice president does is assigned by the president and, thus, covered by the law.” &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/19/AR2009011903042.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....03042.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What would be interesting to see for starters is the index/contents-list for the boxes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little aside about Cheney’s request (as pointed out above , its a Presidential Libraries Mandatory Review Request)…. in January of this year he “lost” in court trying to exempt his records from the Presidential Records Act on leaving office &#8211; and essentially be able to taake it all with him. The judge said that she would <strong>“But she also said she would “rely on a sworn promise by O’Donnell that everything the vice president does is assigned by the president and, thus, covered by the law.” </strong><br /><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/19/AR2009011903042.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..03042.html</a></p>
<p>What would be interesting to see for starters is the index/contents-list for the boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: burqa</title>
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		<dc:creator>burqa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the release of these classified documents will not harm the national interest, someone needs to ask Cheney why he did not release such flattering documents when he was in power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The guy is a bullshit artist and needs to have his bluff called.&lt;br /&gt;
Same with Addington.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the release of these classified documents will not harm the national interest, someone needs to ask Cheney why he did not release such flattering documents when he was in power.</p>
<p>The guy is a bullshit artist and needs to have his bluff called.<br />
Same with Addington.</p>
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		<title>By: Propagandee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Propagandee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;One thing is immediately clear from this request: Cheney is cherry-picking the documents that will prove his case (I know. You’re shocked.)  Cheney doesn’t request, after all, the roughly 6 pages of the CIA IG Report which directly addresses the efficacy of torture in collecting intelligence,…&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like the same trick Cheney played with Bob Graham when he was running the Senate Intel Committee. Graham asked for a declassified version of the Iraq intel report, and got back everything but the caveats which were contained in a “classified” attachment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>One thing is immediately clear from this request: Cheney is cherry-picking the documents that will prove his case (I know. You’re shocked.)  Cheney doesn’t request, after all, the roughly 6 pages of the CIA IG Report which directly addresses the efficacy of torture in collecting intelligence,…</em> </p>
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<p>Sounds like the same trick Cheney played with Bob Graham when he was running the Senate Intel Committee. Graham asked for a declassified version of the Iraq intel report, and got back everything but the caveats which were contained in a “classified” attachment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;17 - Thanks much - you and Jim both.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17 &#8211; Thanks much &#8211; you and Jim both.</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Teddy’s Silo post is upstairs!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/breaking-jim-tedisco-concedes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BREAKING NY-20: Jim Tedisco Concedes to Scott Murphy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy’s Silo post is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/04/24/breaking-jim-tedisco-concedes/" rel="nofollow">BREAKING NY-20: Jim Tedisco Concedes to Scott Murphy</a></p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m glad you brought that up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As many have mentioned, Cheney was an inveterate note-taking scribbler.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem with “cryptic” notes would be that they aren’t likely specific enough to make a document request given the massive volumes of government classified paper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, a very specific note, such as “CIA memo dated blah-blah on Intelligence gained from torture of High Value Detainees”, would very likely fall into the category requiring the same Top Secret/SCI classification as the original memo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too vague and the archivists can’t find what you want. Too specific and it has to be the same Top Secret/SCI classification. &lt;i&gt;And&lt;/i&gt; stored in a SCIF!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if Cheney has notes that have that the same Top Secret/SCI classification that he is no longer eligible to access, he is in serious violation of US security laws.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m glad you brought that up.</p>
<p>As many have mentioned, Cheney was an inveterate note-taking scribbler.</p>
<p>The problem with “cryptic” notes would be that they aren’t likely specific enough to make a document request given the massive volumes of government classified paper.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a very specific note, such as “CIA memo dated blah-blah on Intelligence gained from torture of High Value Detainees”, would very likely fall into the category requiring the same Top Secret/SCI classification as the original memo.</p>
<p>Too vague and the archivists can’t find what you want. Too specific and it has to be the same Top Secret/SCI classification. <i>And</i> stored in a SCIF!</p>
<p>And if Cheney has notes that have that the same Top Secret/SCI classification that he is no longer eligible to access, he is in serious violation of US security laws.</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Butt covers are a Cheney family tradition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Butt covers are a Cheney family tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for supplying the legal answer to my question. But do you think Cheney feels bound by such legal strictures?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would that restriction even apply to cryptic notes like &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Torture Justification Doc. xyz” ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, if his notes were that cryptic, he could place a request for these documents justifying torture, and then burn his original note. He now has the substance of his note in the request, so he has no further need for his (illegal) handwritten note.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for supplying the legal answer to my question. But do you think Cheney feels bound by such legal strictures?</p>
<p>Would that restriction even apply to cryptic notes like </p>
<p>“Torture Justification Doc. xyz” ?</p>
<p>Of course, if his notes were that cryptic, he could place a request for these documents justifying torture, and then burn his original note. He now has the substance of his note in the request, so he has no further need for his (illegal) handwritten note.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If it wasn’t effective, and every time it wasn’t effective, it was a crime. And any time it was effective, it was still a crime. Dick doesn’t begin to deny it, he’s gone straight to arguing mitigation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well said!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If it wasn’t effective, and every time it wasn’t effective, it was a crime. And any time it was effective, it was still a crime. Dick doesn’t begin to deny it, he’s gone straight to arguing mitigation.</p>
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<p>Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: TarheelDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>TarheelDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, I am curious about that too.  Exactly who brought James Mitchell forward as an “expert”?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I am curious about that too.  Exactly who brought James Mitchell forward as an “expert”?</p>
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