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	<title>Comments on: Jerrold Nadler: We Must Investigate Torture &#8230; and Fix State Secrets</title>
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		<title>By: tjbs</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/jerrold-nadler-we-must-investigate-torture-and-fix-state-secrets/#comment-150658</link>
		<dc:creator>tjbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A state secret is the PAT TILLMAN assassination by an American weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
 State secrets seems like a license to kill.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A state secret is the PAT TILLMAN assassination by an American weapon.<br />
 State secrets seems like a license to kill.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/jerrold-nadler-we-must-investigate-torture-and-fix-state-secrets/#comment-150642</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was not on Obama’s bus when I heard him keep repeating “move on, turn the page” crap  .  So many of the Dems and Republicans have been repeating this “move on, turn the page” mantra for several years now.  While I was putting in many hours for former Congressman Sherrod Brown when he was running for Dewine’s senate seat the false pre-war intelligence came up and the issue of  accountability.  Sherrod Brown repeated the we don’t want this to be a “blame game” I felt like I had been punched in the gut.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My response to Brown “since when did justice and accountability start being defined as the “blame game”.  This is all so Rovian&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I guess after Republicans spent years investigating blow jobs they now define all investigations into administration officials actions as “vengeance or witch hunts”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quite the distance between investigating bj’s and investigating intelligence snow jobs that result in hundreds of thousands dead and injured and torture.   At least in my book&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not on Obama’s bus when I heard him keep repeating “move on, turn the page” crap  .  So many of the Dems and Republicans have been repeating this “move on, turn the page” mantra for several years now.  While I was putting in many hours for former Congressman Sherrod Brown when he was running for Dewine’s senate seat the false pre-war intelligence came up and the issue of  accountability.  Sherrod Brown repeated the we don’t want this to be a “blame game” I felt like I had been punched in the gut.</p>
<p>My response to Brown “since when did justice and accountability start being defined as the “blame game”.  This is all so Rovian</p>
<p> I guess after Republicans spent years investigating blow jobs they now define all investigations into administration officials actions as “vengeance or witch hunts”</p>
<p>Quite the distance between investigating bj’s and investigating intelligence snow jobs that result in hundreds of thousands dead and injured and torture.   At least in my book</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluetoe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and yet we here that Obama and Harry Reid think a thorough investigation of torture is nothing but a distraction.  A distraction from what?  Obama’s organic garden and Reid’s ring record?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yet we here that Obama and Harry Reid think a thorough investigation of torture is nothing but a distraction.  A distraction from what?  Obama’s organic garden and Reid’s ring record?</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most indubitably, Hugh…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama has tacked to the center too often, yet, there’s still hope in dope…!  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most indubitably, Hugh…</p>
<p>Obama has tacked to the center too often, yet, there’s still hope in dope…!  </p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/jerrold-nadler-we-must-investigate-torture-and-fix-state-secrets/#comment-150619</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just looking at the trends and doing the math.  As far as I can tell, Obama has not changed his postion on any of this.  He had guys like Cass Sunstein out there inveighing aggainst the criminalization of “policy differences.”  Yesterday I linked to a couple of oxdown diaries I wrote from just before the inauguration in which Obama first promoted the line about looking forward not looking back.  He was against rank and file prosecutions then and decidedly tepid about pursuing any criminal investigations at all.  This is pretty much where he is now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at the trends and doing the math.  As far as I can tell, Obama has not changed his postion on any of this.  He had guys like Cass Sunstein out there inveighing aggainst the criminalization of “policy differences.”  Yesterday I linked to a couple of oxdown diaries I wrote from just before the inauguration in which Obama first promoted the line about looking forward not looking back.  He was against rank and file prosecutions then and decidedly tepid about pursuing any criminal investigations at all.  This is pretty much where he is now.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Always the eternal optimist eh, Hugh…?  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always the eternal optimist eh, Hugh…?  </p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nadler ” you don’t have much choice under the law-you have to investigate”&lt;br /&gt;
does this statement reflect Nadler’s past stance on issues?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or is this his response/ approach when the Jane’s and Marcy’s of the U.S. are breathing down his neck?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nadler ” you don’t have much choice under the law-you have to investigate”<br />
does this statement reflect Nadler’s past stance on issues?</p>
<p>or is this his response/ approach when the Jane’s and Marcy’s of the U.S. are breathing down his neck?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let’s see.  Nadler wants a special prosecutor, and Obama just wants this all to go away.  Who will prevail?  Yeah, that’s what I thought too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s see.  Nadler wants a special prosecutor, and Obama just wants this all to go away.  Who will prevail?  Yeah, that’s what I thought too.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ditto.  Marcy deserves some recognition for all of her work, leadership and commitment to justice.  gives us hope&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto.  Marcy deserves some recognition for all of her work, leadership and commitment to justice.  gives us hope</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Karpinski hammered on this during her interview on Countdown the other night&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hold the upline people accountable&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karpinski hammered on this during her interview on Countdown the other night</p>
<p>Hold the upline people accountable</p>
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